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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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Tropi-Care is my poison. Used to be huge into Zaino until this stuff came along. Even decided to sell it, I liked it so much.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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I know that P21S and S100 are the same thing. That's the reason I use S100, because it's half the price. I don't see why anybody would pay $30 for P21S if a $15 jar of S100 gives the exact same results. I only use S100 during the summer, it doesn't last long enough to justify using it in the colder months.

I also know that both Pinnacle and Blackfire are produced by Classic Motoring Accessories. Blackfire's just my favorite sealant, over Zaino, 4* UPP, Klasse SG, EX-P, NXT, and a couple others.

As stated earlier, I like Souveran, but not as a wax on a daily driver, which my car is. I'd only use it before shows or gatherings if anything.

There's not much use for a rotary after you've used it once to remove defects, but the time and effort it takes to do paint correction on a 7424 just isn't worth it. I'd like to have a rotary lying around for the occasional bad scratch on my car or a trashed exterior on another car I'm working on. I've used a Cyclo and it's a really solid unit, but I prefer the PC. Can't really explain why, I just do.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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I liked the smaller pads on the Cyclo.

I use Klasse AIO as a prep for almost everything, I even use it on glass. It's just one of those wonder products.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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I use AIO as a chemical cleaner when I need to strip something else off and have a nice base for a new product.

I find it doesn't do much for cleanly polished surface, so I pass on it then.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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What do you use for a base prep coat before any waxes or sealents?

I liked the AIO because it removed alot of hazing some older 3M products were FAMOUS for. If you wanted to use a 3M product to correct the hazing you had to have time and you have to work certian products in a specific manner. With the All In One you just quickly go over the car once and it corrected everything. I also liked how it removed oil's, fillers and overall gave the car a nice base shine to start with.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tailwind
I find it doesn't do much for cleanly polished surface.
In what sense do you feel it doesnt do much, like further polish the surface, clean, shine??
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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I don't think it really adds anything to the look or cleanliness of the surface. After finishing up with something like Menzerna FPII or Poorboys SSR1, I don't think AIO really helps all that much.

If I use something in between the last polish step and the wax/sealant, it's usually something glaze-like. Two of Clearkote's products (Vanilla Moose or Red Machine Glaze) for example.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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I've never used a 3M product, so I can't comment on that.

Menzerna and Poorboy polishes don't have any fillers, and if I'm using something like #80 that does have fillers, I just opt for a final wax or sealant that will bond well over it, as opposed to Zaino or SG which won't.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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See I never used any Menzerna or Poorboy stuff. Too bad you wernt closer to Don's, I could try some of your stuff and you could take the DeWalt fo a run.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Either way, if it works, it works. The end result is the same, even if you've got to take a few different routes to get there.

You're one of the few guys I've seen on here that "gets it" regarding detailing. Nice to know.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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I can't even hang out in the apperance section of this site. They drive me bonkers.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 05:53 AM
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Damn.. I didn't know so much went into detailing- I'm impressed!
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 06:24 AM
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I'm glad this didnt turn out to be a Zaino vs. thread. By far the most intelligent discussion on detailing I've seen, even though I didnt know what they were talking about half the time. The app on the CF and here are a waste, pretty much.
Joe I want a detail job before LVD. Can you fit me in?
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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Don won't be around this weekend and I don't have a hose spicket at my condo. I really wish I could help you out Brent.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe "Preachers Sheets" DIESO
Don won't be around this weekend and I don't have a hose spicket at my condo. I really wish I could help you out Brent.
Maybe we can hook up next weekend.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Sounds like a plan.
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