Magic Stick- WOW!
Magic Stick- WOW! TSP MS3 are 237/242, .603"/.609", 113 LSA
Check out the thread...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/196368-texas-speed-magic-stick-camshaft-goes-400-rwhp-stock-heads-a4.html
Check out the thread...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/196368-texas-speed-magic-stick-camshaft-goes-400-rwhp-stock-heads-a4.html
The numbers would apear to be impressive but with an unlocked converter its very hard to judge.
The way it looks now, the torque is nice but its nice ar 3000 RPM, with a huge converter like that is highly unlikly that that car will ever race at an RPM that low, and at high RPM the torque just drops like a brick.
I would be more impressed if it made that torque at 4500-7000 rpm with a locked converter.
One of my buddies friend has that cam and made about 20HP less but the HP and Torque was in the rite place at least.
The way it looks now, the torque is nice but its nice ar 3000 RPM, with a huge converter like that is highly unlikly that that car will ever race at an RPM that low, and at high RPM the torque just drops like a brick.
I would be more impressed if it made that torque at 4500-7000 rpm with a locked converter.
One of my buddies friend has that cam and made about 20HP less but the HP and Torque was in the rite place at least.
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First we see this:
"FYI, the RPM reading of the graph is off 500 RPM due to the high stall speed of the torque converter. The pull was actually up to 6800 RPM. We did NOT make a pull to 7300 RPM."
But yet hp/torque still cross at 5250 just as they should so was the graph really off that much? Odd to me....
A friend down here just got that Magic Stick and its very docile on the street. Tuning has come a long way in these cars....
FWIW, he ran a pullied '04 Cobra Monday night and got raped....
I would have thought it would have been a little closer. The Cobra has 50 more RWHP but also weighs 200 more lbs....
"FYI, the RPM reading of the graph is off 500 RPM due to the high stall speed of the torque converter. The pull was actually up to 6800 RPM. We did NOT make a pull to 7300 RPM."
But yet hp/torque still cross at 5250 just as they should so was the graph really off that much? Odd to me....
A friend down here just got that Magic Stick and its very docile on the street. Tuning has come a long way in these cars....
FWIW, he ran a pullied '04 Cobra Monday night and got raped....
I would have thought it would have been a little closer. The Cobra has 50 more RWHP but also weighs 200 more lbs....
The MS3 is a pretty badass cam. It's what I run and for it's size I cannot believe how drivable it is. Other than the lope, the car drives like stock, even with a 3500 stall and 2.73s. This is all on a mail order tune too. I plan to get some much better numbers out of it by the end of the month. 
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Originally Posted by Kenny H
First we see this:
"FYI, the RPM reading of the graph is off 500 RPM due to the high stall speed of the torque converter. The pull was actually up to 6800 RPM. We did NOT make a pull to 7300 RPM."
But yet hp/torque still cross at 5250 just as they should so was the graph really off that much? Odd to me....
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"FYI, the RPM reading of the graph is off 500 RPM due to the high stall speed of the torque converter. The pull was actually up to 6800 RPM. We did NOT make a pull to 7300 RPM."
But yet hp/torque still cross at 5250 just as they should so was the graph really off that much? Odd to me....
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Kenny,
From what I know the point at which the HP and TQ cross is a function of a mathematical equation that derives HP from Torque. Even if the dyno sampling softwear was being lazy and reading 500RPM too late the two lines would still cross at 5250.
I have seen dyno's read 100 or 200 rpm late, but 500 is just crap! I have seec cars with similer sised stalls on the dyno and it never read 500 rpm late. THAT is what is odd to me...
