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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Here it is everyone the Chevy Camaro concept...these pictures are not fake, GM unveiled this car earlier this week...a 400hp small block and 4 wheel independant suspension, the question is will they build it or just let ford and dodge take the pony car wars, there is also talk of a new rear wheel drive monte carlo.








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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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The big question----will they ever build it? W/the shape GM is in right now, who knows? Concept is a long way off from actual production....It looks good, though. Hope it's not 10 bolt-equipped. WJ
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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challenger > camaro...425hp hemi with 450 tq for the win
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Ehhh, still not what I want. But I can't complain.

The rear, doesnt look like a Camaro rear at all. It should roll down into itself. Not just sit there like a Corvette rear.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Not sure how I feel about it. I do like the retro style front end BUT the rear looks way too much like a Vette.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PurEvl
challenger > camaro...425hp hemi with 450 tq for the win
agreed at this point the challenger is alot better and doesnt have a weird back to it. the challenger concept looks awsome . the way a muscle car should look
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Hope it's not 10 bolt-equipped. WJ
Nah, supposed to have an independent rear suspension, hopefully a strong one.
I like it but I think I might like the Challenger concept better as well. The Challenger is like beyond 'retro', it's almost an exact REPLICA LOL but I like it.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Borderlinedragracing
Here it is everyone the Chevy Camaro concept...these pictures are not fake, GM unveiled this car earlier this week...a 400hp small block and 4 wheel independant suspension.





hope you all like them
Let's hope this one gets off the concept table and into the showroom!

Thanx for all the pics!
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PurEvl
challenger > camaro...425hp hemi with 450 tq for the win
I tend to agree with you, and I kind of like the looks better at this stage anyway. If Chevy doesn't make a 425-450hp SS, I might have a dodge parked in the driveway next to my Z06 in a few years.....
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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I tend to agree with you, and I kind of like the looks better at this stage anyway. If Chevy doesn't make a 425-450hp SS, I might have a dodge parked in the driveway next to my Z06 in a few years.....
u guys keep thinking that challanger is gonna be faster...i may make more power, by 25 hp but the damn thing is gonna weigh over 4k pounds... there is a side by side picture of it in the multimedia forum. i wish i could find it to show ya but its like looking at a full size car to a mid size.
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[QUOTE=Humvee z28]u guys keep thinking that challanger is gonna be faster...i may make more power, by 25 hp but the damn thing is gonna weigh over 4k pounds... there is a side by side picture of it in the multimedia forum. i wish i could find it to show ya but its like looking at a full size car to a mid size. [/QUOTE

All three, the shelby, the Camaro and the challenger are looking to be over 4k lbs. The good thing about the camaro is, if it gets the LS2, there will already be a huge aftermarket following
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Independent rear suspension will not cut it at the drags, as far as I'm concerned, so from 10 bolt to that is not much of an improvement. That must be a platform that's already in production--Cadillac maybe? LS-motored Caddys are snapping half shafts like, well like pretzels. Camaro will be the same unless they put a 12 bolt solid rear in the thing. If the Challenger has a solid rear axle, they will be way more desireable to the drag-race set than any new IRS Camaro. Same w/the Vette half-shafts...pretty much junk. When are the GM engineers going to learn?? (My 2 cents, only... ) WJ
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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WJ, The challenger is designed around an IRS setup too. I agree completely, IRS makes for a better driver, but this isn't a BMW, if they are going to build a 400 rwd car, it cshould have a 12 bolt, leave the IRS to the caddy and the GTO. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ford is putting a solid rear in the new shelby.... At least they are starting to get it.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Independent rear suspension will not cut it at the drags, as far as I'm concerned, so from 10 bolt to that is not much of an improvement. That must be a platform that's already in production--Cadillac maybe? LS-motored Caddys are snapping half shafts like, well like pretzels. Camaro will be the same unless they put a 12 bolt solid rear in the thing. If the Challenger has a solid rear axle, they will be way more desireable to the drag-race set than any new IRS Camaro. Same w/the Vette half-shafts...pretty much junk. When are the GM engineers going to learn?? (My 2 cents, only... ) WJ
i doubt the challenger or the camaro will be solid axle cars. The camaro will be built on the Zeta platform so it's a GTO based car. 4000lb tank with IRS basically. GM engineers are building the car to appeal to the masses not to drag racers. IRS is much more desireable for a smooth comfortable ride than the 20+ year old suspension design that was used in the 4th gens. Either way I like the looks of the new camaro and think it will sell pretty well if they market it properly. However as it stands right now I think i'd rather have the challenger in my driveway with the 425HP hemi.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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I am a chevy guy, but I like the Challanger better too.

The other thing to consider about the 'sucsess' of this Camaro is that the Retro Mustang will have been out for 4 years before the Camaro even hits a showroom. And the Challanger will also beat it to market, so I'm sure a good number of buyers who want a retro muscle car will already have one by the time the General gets around to the Camaro.

I just think GM is going to be a day late and a dollar short again.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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4000lbs?!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO WAY! F THAT!
I am not getting one if it ways 4000 or more pounds.
That's way to much weight for my taste.
It sounds like a frickin' heavy duty truck, with a big powerful engine, not a Sportscar.
I was just fine and dandy with the Camaros weighing around 3500 or so on 93-97 4THS, but, that is just to much.

400 - 4000 = 1hp to 10lbs
300 - 3500 = 1hp to 12lbs
Not much of a big gain there.
What they should do is lighten it, duh, and give it a nice 350-375ish HP motor.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DAKMOR
4000lbs?!!!!!!!!!!!!

400 - 4000 = 1hp to 10lbs
350 - 3500 = 1hp to 10lbs
Not much of a big gain there.
What they should do is lighten it, duh, and give it a nice 350-375ish HP motor.
I edited your quote.... 01-02 LS1 350hp +/- So no, there should be no gain in lbs per hp over an 01-02 F-body
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Thanks for the pics, but one thing missing.


T-tops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Independent rear suspension will not cut it at the drags, as far as I'm concerned, so from 10 bolt to that is not much of an improvement. That must be a platform that's already in production--Cadillac maybe? LS-motored Caddys are snapping half shafts like, well like pretzels. Camaro will be the same unless they put a 12 bolt solid rear in the thing. If the Challenger has a solid rear axle, they will be way more desireable to the drag-race set than any new IRS Camaro. Same w/the Vette half-shafts...pretty much junk. When are the GM engineers going to learn?? (My 2 cents, only... ) WJ
Warren, some company's make a pretty nice hardened steel rear half shaft for only $250, my dad hasnt broken one yet and it has 800 rwhp
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