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Originally Posted by stangman_nb
I'm not bashing the judicial system. I am bashing the politics behind it. Can you guys tell me in all honesty that it's ok for a cop to get away with more than any of us EVER could due to the fact that he has a badge? What if my professor pulled away from getting pulled over and drove 15 miles down the road and killed your mother/sister/daughter? Would you be sticking up for the judicial system then? NO....and that's the part of the system I am bashing.
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I have a couple of friends that are state troopers in Maine and they usually set their radars to flash at anything 74 mph and above in a 65. Probably varies on the cop and or dept. Right-wrong..I don't know but people, even cops are human and do give breaks, professional courtesy at times. If you catch a break good for you. If you are found guilty for speeding and you was, then you gotta pay up!
Originally Posted by tbyrne
I'm surprized the trooper actually wrote him up for 7 MPH over. I can see maybe the cut off only being 5 over, but you'd figure he'd at least get a warning.
getting caught speeding is no big deal....even if it was only 7 miles over. hell, just look at it this way...its kinda payback for all those time you never got caught speeding and/or racing..
professional courtesey is one thing...letting someone go on a DUI is breakin the law, no matter how you chalk it up. like someone allready stated, what if that cop went up the road and killed a family of 4??? who gets the blame?? cause ya know the cop being pulled over will be recorded on their log, so they will find out that he was pulled over only moments before. i dunno.
professional courtesey is one thing...letting someone go on a DUI is breakin the law, no matter how you chalk it up. like someone allready stated, what if that cop went up the road and killed a family of 4??? who gets the blame?? cause ya know the cop being pulled over will be recorded on their log, so they will find out that he was pulled over only moments before. i dunno.
The cop was said...yea said (who knows if he was bragging about something that never happened) has nothing to do with your speeding. There is no relation.
It aggrivates me as much as anyone else when I hear about cops getting away with weird stuff but I dont have a bleeding heart for the next guy who gets stopped breaking the law who has to pay the price and points the finger at someone else.
I spent thousands of dollars, lost my license twice and spent 8 months in court for something I did behind the wheel and it was because of our system sucks because a friends dog's owner's brother's wife's sister in law knows someone who got out of a ticket.
People need to worry more about themselves and how they obey the law rather than using the "how about them" line everytime they get into trouble.
It aggrivates me as much as anyone else when I hear about cops getting away with weird stuff but I dont have a bleeding heart for the next guy who gets stopped breaking the law who has to pay the price and points the finger at someone else.
I spent thousands of dollars, lost my license twice and spent 8 months in court for something I did behind the wheel and it was because of our system sucks because a friends dog's owner's brother's wife's sister in law knows someone who got out of a ticket.
People need to worry more about themselves and how they obey the law rather than using the "how about them" line everytime they get into trouble.
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Originally Posted by Joe "Preachers Sheets" DIESO
Why are people bashing the cop or court system in this case?
PDD was going over the speed limit, was caught, went to courty expecting a favor because he didnt really want to pay, had to follow the rules and pay for violating the speed limit and the judical system sucks?
Gimme a break guys, you know your breaking the law and you know what is going to happen if your caught. You either break the law or you dont, whats up with this "well I only broke it a little" garbage?
PDD was going over the speed limit, was caught, went to courty expecting a favor because he didnt really want to pay, had to follow the rules and pay for violating the speed limit and the judical system sucks?
Gimme a break guys, you know your breaking the law and you know what is going to happen if your caught. You either break the law or you dont, whats up with this "well I only broke it a little" garbage?
Joe there are 2 arguments going right now. The first is was he wrong? Yes he was, breaking the law is breaking the law. PERIOD!
The second argument is about whether there are 2 sets of rules, 1 for the general population and one for civil servants (cops, judges, etc...) and whether it's right or not. YES there are 2 sets of rules. If I were to ever get pulled over with an open alcoholic beverage in my car, do you know how quickly I'd get put away? Yep that's right, quicker than you could mutter "but officer" This cop/professor did it and was told to have a nice day and be careful.
These 2 arguments really don't intertwine unless the question about whether and officer would get a ticket for going 7mph over the limit. If that question comes up.....what do you think would happen?
The second argument is about whether there are 2 sets of rules, 1 for the general population and one for civil servants (cops, judges, etc...) and whether it's right or not. YES there are 2 sets of rules. If I were to ever get pulled over with an open alcoholic beverage in my car, do you know how quickly I'd get put away? Yep that's right, quicker than you could mutter "but officer" This cop/professor did it and was told to have a nice day and be careful.
These 2 arguments really don't intertwine unless the question about whether and officer would get a ticket for going 7mph over the limit. If that question comes up.....what do you think would happen?
Think of it this way, if the speed limit is 65 and your going 66, your breaking the law and your just pissing off the judge when you try to weasel your way out of it. Whether your going 66 or 166 your still wrong. What part of that dont you understand? Throw your feelings and what you think is right in out the window, the cold hard fact is on a big a$$ sign you see every so many miles. If you still dont understand whats going on you shouldnt be on the road because your judgement is that of a 3 year old.
There is right and there is wrong, 65.1 mph is wrong. When did we start coming up with our own personal limits of flexibility to the law. If I'm driving 66 in a 65 and I get stopped I know I'll prob get f*cked. I was wrong to go faster than allowed. Just because it was a "little faster" doesnt mean it was less than 65.
I should of used that in court when I was there ........ "judge, I broke the law but I didnt break it that much" hahah
There is right and there is wrong, 65.1 mph is wrong. When did we start coming up with our own personal limits of flexibility to the law. If I'm driving 66 in a 65 and I get stopped I know I'll prob get f*cked. I was wrong to go faster than allowed. Just because it was a "little faster" doesnt mean it was less than 65.
I should of used that in court when I was there ........ "judge, I broke the law but I didnt break it that much" hahah
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Originally Posted by stangman_nb
These 2 arguments really don't intertwine unless the question about whether and officer would get a ticket for going 7mph over the limit. If that question comes up.....what do you think would happen?
Hypocrites.
i suppose if i had a nice rack and shed sum tears, mr officer would have let me go, but your right 65.1 is speeding, but is it right to have staties blowing by me on the mass pike every day doing 80 or 90 just for the hell of it? no, but i guess there above the law
Originally Posted by Joe "Preachers Sheets" DIESO
Your so worried about making sure the cop is going to get a ticket when you want to get out of the very same ticket because you think it's unfair.
Hypocrites.
Hypocrites.
Am I worried about the cop that's breaking the damn law? Yes I am because if I could kill someone going .1 mph over the speed limit then so can he. Why is it OK for him to get away with it, while it's not for me?! Joe I went to college to become a cop, I knew many cops back then and SAW, yes SAW a lot of what went on. It's not hearsay, it's a matter of what I know. Come on man, this argument is futile. I am not disagreeing with the fact that wrong is wrong. I am arguing the fact that the politics behind our judicial system are VERY crooked!
Originally Posted by pdd
i suppose if i had a nice rack and shed sum tears, mr officer would have let me go
I've been seeing a lot more people getting tickets these days. The fact is, the reason for a speed limit is for safety and the reason for ticketing is to ensure people follow it. Maybe cops are becoming a little more aggressive and giving out more ticket, because if you think about it, if you knew you'd get a ticket for going any mile over the speed limit, you most likely wouldn't go over it. The fact that a lot of people expect that they can go +/-10 mph without a ticket makes people do that speed. And so many people plead not guilty with "small" tickets because the tradition is that most likely the cop won't show up and the ticket will get thrown out. Maybe they are trying to do away with this tradition too..
Last edited by lilstephsls1; Jan 20, 2006 at 03:11 PM.
Originally Posted by Joe "Preachers Sheets" DIESO
Whether your going 66 or 166 your still wrong. What part of that dont you understand?
There is right and there is wrong, 65.1 mph is wrong.
There is right and there is wrong, 65.1 mph is wrong.
Bad analogy there. 65 - 75 mph is not endangering anyone's life. 166 on the other hand...
Laws are made to keep us safe. 72 mph IMO is not unsafe (in a 65 mph zone). I think if the officer would have excercised a little patience, he could have pulled over someone who deserved it.
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As for the tint on cop's personal vehicles, forget that. I am going to take a picture and post it here of several NJ State ****'s MARKED patrol vehicles with limo tint on the front windows. Hypocrisy at it's finest!
Originally Posted by matt6822
I am going to take a picture and post it here of several NJ State ****'s MARKED patrol vehicles with limo tint on the front windows. Hypocrisy at it's finest!
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i know the 65 MPH limit is strictly enforced in most states but this is BS.
unless its an area wheres theres lots of accidents or agresssive drivers he shouldve never even gave you a second look.
unless its an area wheres theres lots of accidents or agresssive drivers he shouldve never even gave you a second look.
A cop breaks the law so I can???
Quit being a bunch of ******* cry babies, if your ******* stupid enough to break the law then take it like a man and pay your dues.
If you dont like it THEN DONT BREAK THE ******* LAW.
Common sense here, a ******* 3rd grade student gets the concept but half of this forum. Cut your dicks off cause your killing the general population.
Quit being a bunch of ******* cry babies, if your ******* stupid enough to break the law then take it like a man and pay your dues.
If you dont like it THEN DONT BREAK THE ******* LAW.
Common sense here, a ******* 3rd grade student gets the concept but half of this forum. Cut your dicks off cause your killing the general population.
Originally Posted by Joe "Preachers Sheets" DIESO
Cut your dicks off cause your killing the general population.
I still think if the cop or judge were a HUMANITARIAN he would have given him a break. But... from the sound of your response I must have mistintepreted the definition of the word. In fact, he's lucky you weren't his judge. Otherwise he might be in jail for the rest of his life.