Help me pick heads?
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
Originally Posted by foff667
$1599 for ported darts https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...highlight=dart
Originally Posted by Noyzee
no, i was talking about edlbrocks. 
chef spilled the beans tho. esp did some testing, and i know another person that is waiting on a new set for his HC swap!!!!
they did pretty well
chef spilled the beans tho. esp did some testing, and i know another person that is waiting on a new set for his HC swap!!!!
they did pretty well
They are edlebrocks
NEW Edelbrock LS-1 CNC Ported Heads
Are the one's you guys are talking about 205's?
Originally Posted by Noyzee
wow, thats pretty cheep. anyone making any power with them?
BTW I do plan on spraying a small shot in the near future, For playing
AFR 205's are better on the street. CNC ls6 etc have a larger runner.
ET 215 and the new Trick flows are great but you'll also need longer pushrods and they aren't cheap. Its a tough choice.
ET 215 and the new Trick flows are great but you'll also need longer pushrods and they aren't cheap. Its a tough choice.
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Originally Posted by DannoWS6
They are edlebrocks
NEW Edelbrock LS-1 CNC Ported Heads
Are the one's you guys are talking about 205's?
NEW Edelbrock LS-1 CNC Ported Heads
Are the one's you guys are talking about 205's?
mike, the ls6 are good, but i pushed water around the 600 rwhp mark with them. the afr's brought me up to 700 and no water
very similar tuning ect. the deck thickness realy helped. About 90% of the people out there do not need big ports.Most of the time smaller ports are a better street/strip head.
The AFR,ET,Edelbrock deck thickness is an advantage when going FI -Nitrous.We've lifted them at 750+rwhp but that was probly due to not enough octain/lot's of boost.
The AFR,ET,Edelbrock deck thickness is an advantage when going FI -Nitrous.We've lifted them at 750+rwhp but that was probly due to not enough octain/lot's of boost.
Originally Posted by Noyzee
those are the ones!!!!!!
mike, the ls6 are good, but i pushed water around the 600 rwhp mark with them. the afr's brought me up to 700 and no water very similar tuning ect. the deck thickness realy helped.
mike, the ls6 are good, but i pushed water around the 600 rwhp mark with them. the afr's brought me up to 700 and no water
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Originally Posted by Big Mike
Paul with the Twin Turbo vette from Cartek is pushing close to 1000 rwhp with the LS6 heads. My old nitrous setup was tuned around 710 rwhp and I never pushed water once! It's all in the tune my man!
did you run a over flow with just a catch can? or the stock one?
don, the n2o is harder to keep the heads down because of the instant cylender press so im sure your issue was in the octain like you said. usually boost fi will go further without pushing water.
we where able to make more then 700, but it took some trial and eror, and it wasnt cheep or easy
hope we can make more with mine this year without water issues
Actually I agree with Mike. It's all about tuning and octain(which is tune) on when a head will lift up to a point.We've lifted a few heads just pushing the power level and you know when you have too much timing when it pushes water.Back it off a few degree's and they'll never push.
Now Nitrous isn't harder unless it has a lean hit.Take a 700rwhp Nitrous hit and a 700rwhp blower car.The blower car will have 800-850hp pushing on the piston/crank/head combo because it has to drive a belt while the nitrous will still be the same 700hp or so.
For a low compression (11-1) NA car I wouldn't worry about pushing water unless the tune is way off
Now Nitrous isn't harder unless it has a lean hit.Take a 700rwhp Nitrous hit and a 700rwhp blower car.The blower car will have 800-850hp pushing on the piston/crank/head combo because it has to drive a belt while the nitrous will still be the same 700hp or so.
For a low compression (11-1) NA car I wouldn't worry about pushing water unless the tune is way off
deck n head surface can also lead to pushing water, wrong gasket choice as well blah blah blah. Lots of things can do it...the one thing i noticed on my sts setup...timing was my big killer...I kept making don push it more an more an it let us know right away when it had enough 
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I don't think I'll have to worry about lifting heads on my current engine. I think the most it might ever see is a little over 500 hp.
Right now it's looking like CNC LS6's w/ the Fast setup.
Or AFR/Edelbrocks.. Fast some time later.
I'll need to decide soon...
I don't think I'll have to worry about lifting heads on my current engine. I think the most it might ever see is a little over 500 hp.
Right now it's looking like CNC LS6's w/ the Fast setup.
Or AFR/Edelbrocks.. Fast some time later.
I'll need to decide soon...
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go with the better heads, but thats just MO
mike, i know alot of N2O cars that push water. the cars with stock overflows you cant tell, but catch can style, you can tell.
its not my car, i know i have talked to a hundred n2o cars from all over the country with different setups, tunners, n2o set ups, size of the shot ect ect.
but like i said this could get into a big *** thread high jack. lol
mike, i know alot of N2O cars that push water. the cars with stock overflows you cant tell, but catch can style, you can tell.
its not my car, i know i have talked to a hundred n2o cars from all over the country with different setups, tunners, n2o set ups, size of the shot ect ect.
but like i said this could get into a big *** thread high jack. lol
Brad is there a HP # that seems to start the water pushing? Only reason I ask is that once I have the new motor in and runnign in my car, I was planning on adding a 100 to 150 hit for certain occasions when it's needed. I figure with a 150 hit I'll somewhere near the 650 mark, is that in the danger zone? just trying to see if adding the nitrous later down the road is going to require me to do anything different when the motor gets built.
I'll never hit it the way you guys are that I am sure of.. 150 hit max with a DP setup, with what I shoudl make on motor, I figure if that's not enough, then I deserve to lose LOL.
I'll never hit it the way you guys are that I am sure of.. 150 hit max with a DP setup, with what I shoudl make on motor, I figure if that's not enough, then I deserve to lose LOL.
Originally Posted by Noyzee
go with the better heads, but thats just MO
mike, i know alot of N2O cars that push water. the cars with stock overflows you cant tell, but catch can style, you can tell.
its not my car, i know i have talked to a hundred n2o cars from all over the country with different setups, tunners, n2o set ups, size of the shot ect ect.
but like i said this could get into a big *** thread high jack. lol
mike, i know alot of N2O cars that push water. the cars with stock overflows you cant tell, but catch can style, you can tell.
its not my car, i know i have talked to a hundred n2o cars from all over the country with different setups, tunners, n2o set ups, size of the shot ect ect.
but like i said this could get into a big *** thread high jack. lol
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Just means you haven't pushed your car hard enough yet
oh, mine has pushed water, lol only head gasket i blew tho was when my power wire hit the header, and blew somefuses, and boom, by by gaskets. lol
JL, you wont have an issue.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Not hard enough then
You can be the man like PurEvl when you skip the gasket and just blow the damn coolant plug out of the head
Now that is superheating the head
You can be the man like PurEvl when you skip the gasket and just blow the damn coolant plug out of the head
Now that is superheating the head 
AFRs 205s no doubt about it. their the most proven head out there for making killer power . ETPs seem to great to but i havent been convinced yet that their THAT much better than the AFRs and worth the long wait. i never even heard of dyno numbers for edlebrock. get AFRs and have no worries.