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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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We discussed this months ago..

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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I wure wish I was in the Marketing Dept @ GM, thats is so the truth, overuse of a once exclusive name just ruins the feel of the car. But historically GM had, and still has a rep of taking a Orange and paint it many different colors, the problem is, its still an orange.

Around in CT, there are more 4th gen SS's and WS.6's compared to regular Z28's and T/A's. I am sure the production #'s say the opposite but thats what I see as a car guy.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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You would think that someone at GM would have considered the true value of a moniker like "Super Sport". The "SS" label has been cultivated for four decades and to diminish it by slapping it on undeserving vehicles is very short-sighted...oh yeah, we ARE talking about GM, afterall . I'm glad that they are "wising-up" but it is pretty obvious that this is just a reflection of how desperate GM has become. I just hope that they can turn things around and continue to develop the "toys" we enthusiasts love.

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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And then you've got the tasteless people who like to make up the "clone SS" cars by slapping the emblems, etc. on non-original SS cars. That is tackiest of tacky. Then again, look how loosely Chrysler uses their "HEMI" nameplate. The new hemi motor doesn't even come close to the late 60's--early '70's monster.... WJ
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Thank God. Now they just need to make a non-retro Trans Am.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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i definatley agree that every model needs a higher performance version... but putting an SS badge on a malibu is just wrong. some cars like the cobalt would get more adult buyers if the 'SS' wasnt so riced out. i think its either subaru or mitsubushi now offeres a non riced out version of their top performer (sti or evo).
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Then again, look how loosely Chrysler uses their "HEMI" nameplate.
And "R/T".
And what's with putting the Daytona name on a truck?
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My Daughters car is a Stratus R/T and it can't get out of it's own way.
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Originally Posted by slayer_taunu
i definatley agree that every model needs a higher performance version... but putting an SS badge on a malibu is just wrong. some cars like the cobalt would get more adult buyers if the 'SS' wasnt so riced out. i think its either subaru or mitsubushi now offeres a non riced out version of their top performer (sti or evo).
Yup evo RS, almost bought one except the seats were way too damn uncomfortable and the manual dorrs, locks, no cd player, etc was too stripped down for my tastes, but they do look good minus the wing.
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You guys obviously don't remember the Impalas and Novas from the early 60's that came with 6 cyl engines and were SuperSport options. SS was not a performance name it was a dress up package. Then over time they started to apply it to higher performance options. But even a 1969 Camaro SS350 was a dog of a performer running the 1/4 mile in the low 15's! The mid/late 80's Monte Carlo SS didn't even make 200 hp! They were great looking cars and that's what the SS was all about, looking like a performance car. I'm glad they are pulling back on their use of it though.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
I wure wish I was in the Marketing Dept @ GM, thats is so the truth, overuse of a once exclusive name just ruins the feel of the car. But historically GM had, and still has a rep of taking a Orange and paint it many different colors, the problem is, its still an orange.

Around in CT, there are more 4th gen SS's and WS.6's compared to regular Z28's and T/A's. I am sure the production #'s say the opposite but thats what I see as a car guy.
Actually, if you look at the production numbers of Trans Ams vs. WS6, I beleive some years they actually made more WS6 T/A's than regular T/A's. I'm not sure about the SS's vs. Z28's though. I know there was a bigger price difference when getting an SS vs. a Z28 then a T/A vs. WS6 though, which might explain why everyone jumped for the WS6 especially in the last two years of production.

Now if the Camaro SS and Firebird WS6 both came with a bigger motor, or more horse power, then it would have been worth it, but we all know it was simply a dress up package with a different muffler and sometimes some better suspension components, but nothing like the difference between a mustang gt and cobra.

I hope GM keeps moving in the right direction and one day offers the 'GM Performance Parts order form'. How cool would it be to order a car, but then go through the GMPP catalogue and custom order parts to go on your factory car? You could order your camaro (maybe a firebird too) with a different cam, headers, motor just like in the 60s with the COPO option.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I hope GM keeps moving in the right direction and one day offers the 'GM Performance Parts order form'. How cool would it be to order a car, but then go through the GMPP catalogue and custom order parts to go on your factory car? You could order your camaro (maybe a firebird too) with a different cam, headers, motor just like in the 60s with the COPO option.
That will never happen because the parts combinations would need to be EPA certified to sell the car as a new vehicle with those parts. It would have to be dealer installed parts. And the COPO option was a complete motor that was EPA certified in the Camaro. You could not get headers or cam installed by the factory but you could order them with the car out of the GM parts catalog. The crossram setup is the perfect example of that. It was an over the counter part that the dealer would install or just put in the trunk for you when the car arrived. The factory never sold a Camaro with a crossram installed. But today it's a lot tougher and a lot more expensive to get parts combinations certified. Just ask SLP.
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