Cool pic, good ole Cobra

 

Thats an interesting statement... but did you also know that George Bush could not legally bring in FEMA or US National Guard to secure the city until Mayor Negan declared a state of emergency in the city, something that Negan refused to do for the first 2 days, trying to take care of the problem himself to gain political advantage for the next election.

 

Hum....gonna go In be fo da on this one...


take it to www.seatstaysup.com and join the political forum fellas...pleanty of evil republicans/neo-cons and glorious non-vitriolic liberal democrats...

 

He put the furniture in his house in storage and sent his family to Houston before he declared an emergency. What happens? He gets re-elected and Bush gets the blame lol. Spike Lee left that part out of his movie

 

Hmm... a couple of points I'd like to make.

1. Bush appointed the head of FEMA. He was his buddy. His buddy was fired from a horse showing organization. He couldn't run a friggen horse show and he was left to be in charge during a crisis. That is the fault of the administration.

2. I joined the military because I love this country; I love the opportunity it gives people and love the ideals it was founded on. We have lost sight of those as a nation and Bush is a prime example of that. Don't get me wrong, both sides have shat on the constitution, but I think the right side's crap is much more dangerous.

3. Not having a college degree does not mean you don't have the ability to think logically. Just as having one does not make you capable of running a nation. Nor does having one alleviate you from being an idiot. A degree means you can ingest information and regurgitate it in a timely manner. It does not measure your intelligence. Case in point, my girlfriend is getting her PhD from MIT. So by the rational of college being a way to judge intelligence she and all her class would be apt at running a country and none of them are idiots. That is wholly false; I wouldn't trust some of them at running a blender let alone a country. One of the guys there didn't know where the engine is in a car. It is fool hearted to think there is a direct correlation between intelligence and an advanced degree. Some of the most successful people in the world are completely self made with no education.

4. Bringing up Kerry in a conversation about Bush is a logical error much more so then "slandering". No one said anything about him, but you brought him up first on the assumption that all liberals like him and secondly to straw man him. My argument is not Kerry is better at school then Bush, it's not even Kerry is smarter then Bush (which was covered in #3) it is that Bush is an idiot at running this country. Therefore your bringing up Kerry was just an attempt to equate him to our argument because you knew Bush did better at school then him. You then knocked him down. That is a straw man argument and it is inherently flawed.

Also, "Slandering" I do believe you mean criticizing. I do not need to have an answer to know that another answer is wrong. It's foolish to think that if you can't solve a problem that you have no ability to form an opinion about it. And please don't put that list on liberals only; politicians do that with an equal number on both sides. It's the one thing that they can accomplish bilaterally.

5. The secular progressive left is advancing and it's because of Bush's inability to run this country to the standards the American people want. Hence only a 30% approval rating. It has been substantiated with facts over and over again. Not here, but you've had to of heard a couple of them. Incase you haven't I could provide a list of this administrations failures.

 

Jerry Jones is supposed to announce a new head coach after the Superbowl.

 

Forget all the times we argued.. you are NOW my hero.

 

hey Mr.B where were stationed at back in the good ol' iron curtain era?

 

Bush--well where to begin....he is a blundering fool, just listen to the things he says. Just go onto youtube and type Bush, and you will laugh hysterically for hours, and then ponder why you yourself cannot be in office.

His Yale and Harvard degrees, do you really feel that the money, and the fact his father was president played NO role in that, wouldn't you pass someone too on the sole basis his father was president. If he was so smart as to graduate from these places why can he not speak right, and stutters half his answers. He is a political tool, put in place.

Wasn't it quiet funny that his brother was in Florida's office, and it just so came down to that state that decided he would get into office or not, hmmmmm.

I support our troops to the fullest, it is a great honorable thing that they are doing for this country fighting for freedom, but what freedom do they fight. A man who got into my Aunt's cab in New York City said it best. He just got back from duty in Afghanistan and he said over there there is nothing but defending popey fields, and the oil fields. Friends who are in now in Iraq say there is no point for us to be there.

Put your ears to the ground, and heads out from in front the television, get out there and listen to the first hand experiences from troops over there, and read some articles online from sites other than CNN. Of course CNN is going to broadcast in the defense of freedom, and make us look better. Take actual first hand experiences that have not been filtered and filtered.

Bush=fool, I wish there was a "EASY" button for kicking the president out of office, I would have been hitting it for months

 

Yes.. I was a "Border Dog" who spent 1 month on the Czech or East German border, 1 month on stand-by, 1 month training for two years. The Cobra in the picture was know as "Red-Catcher" and flew border traces in support of the border sites where we "looked in" towards the Fulda Gap and Eastern Bloc countries.



Here's the Military Intelligience Ground Surviellance Radar I used;



For a complete border modern history, see:

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/documents...s/ch6.htm#p195


The funny thing is- it's all gone now.. and not due to liberal hand-wringing and whining, but rather to a President who stood his ground EVEN when it was unpopular.

 

we still have installations in bad kissingen,wurzberg, and bamberg. however i believe that they will be closeing sometime in the next year. the installation i was at in giessen closes this fall. the one im in right now is slated to go in 2 years. back in the day giessen was the 2nd largest american installation with 45k soldiers stationed there, that wasnt including families and support personnel. the one im in now in Hanau was the largest with 60k. i wish i could have seen what this country used to look like when it was mainly run by americans. LOl

 

The same has been said about President Reagan.. and in retrospect- one of our finest Presidents.

If a video crew followed you around 24/7/365, then I'm sure you would be caught in some doozies.

As long as there are no attacks here in NY and the USA, then his blundering is working effectively, right?

For the liberals to use Iraq just to further thier personal and collective agenda's and without regard to the ramifications to our kids and our grandchildren is sickening to me, as a veteran. Just as President Carter caved in to the Iranians back when they had our people hostage- if we would have come down on them with the full force and fury we are capable of, we wouldn't be having to tap dance in the UN about Nuclear capabilities.

If I would have died in the sands of Iran, or lost a limb or came out unscathed in operation like the following (we were sitting in a C-130 all day) then so be it- that was my part of the bargain of enlisting.

"On the night of April 24, 1980, as the first part of the operation, a number of C-130 transport airplanes met up with eight RH-53 helicopters at an airstrip in the Great Salt Desert of Eastern Iran, near Tabas. Two helicopters broke down in a sandstorm and a third one was damaged on landing. The mission was aborted, but as the aircraft took off again one helicopter clipped a C-130 and crashed, killing eight U.S. servicemen and injuring several more. In Iran, Khomeini's prestige skyrocketed as he credited divine intervention on behalf of Islam for the mission's failure.."

 

But (insert liberal ramblings here).

 

I myself fall right about in the center. I dislike liberals just as much as i dislike the crazy right wing nutjobs who want to run the country from a bible.


The crazy left wing psychos that Mr. B intended to aim this thread at would like nothing more than to see this war come out to be a complete failure, and inside their empty chest cavities they celebrate everytime one of our men or women loses their lives in the middle east. They are so blinded by hatred for bush that they want this to turn into a horrible defeat for the Republicans.

Everytime these people use their right to protest, and make a huge scene, it plants a seed of doubt in some service members mind in the middle east. Its like chipping away at a stone wall..eventually youll get through.

 

Since you choose to bring up silly things Bush says why not look at all the dumb things that came out of liberal mouths?

John Kerry; "I voted for the $XX Billion Dollars before I voted against it"

Al Gore; "I invented the internet" [paraphrase]

Everyone says stupid sh*t, the only difference is that the network media is controlled by secular progressive thought and we only hear about the miss steps of conservatives.

Mayor Negan totally f*cked up his city, but if a conservative voice would have said that he was incompetent the New York Times would have instantly labeled him/her a racist and continued to assassinate his/her character until that person would be forced to leave office.

As far as appointing people who are less the competent to positions of power lets not make Bush out to be the only offender. In 1961 the wonderfully liberal President John F. Kennedy appointed Robert McNamara as Secretary of Defense. The list of his incompetences is very long, but my favorite is his refusal to outfit the M4 Carbine with a chrome plated firing chamber due to the increase in cost of production. More American soldgers died from their weapons jamming due to McNamara's incompetence then in the current Iraqi conflict.

 

You are a cool kid in person but you could not be any more miss informed...

Poppy fields... yes... but when did Afghanistan strike oil... man thats news to me.

And if we are defending oil... so be it. You have a 346CID V8, would you like to run it on goat ****? I don't think so, you need oil as much as the rest of us, and in all honestly, if the only reason we are in the middle east is to protect our oil interests then that is fine by me.

Really? Once again its obvious that you are very miss informed. CNN does not have a single Conservative anchor on their network. They continuously present the news with a liberal/secular progressive bias. The never report on the good things that the US and US military is doing over seas. They unrelentingly air material that is anti-Bush and anti-Republican. The only public opinion poles the report on are ones that portray liberals and S-P's in a positive light and degenerate the traditional or conservative point of view.

Once again it is easy to say, but where is your proof of his foolishness? Is his resolve to finish what he started foolish? Should the United States put its collective tail between its legs and run away like we did in Somalia under Pres. Clinton?

This country is great due in part to the fact that you can call him a fool, and wish him out of office without fear of the Stasi knocking on your door. But to simply say he is a fool and you want to kick him out of office is making you look "Foolish"

 

Thanks Bob,

Though I may share some sentiment with the left, I am still at heart a "traditional warrior" [Bill O'Reilly] My family and I moved to this country in order to escape communism and to see the secular progressives make this great nation a socialist **** hole really burns me up. I will always argue viemently against the S-P/Liberal cause. The only problem that I found is that true S-P's are undeterred by facts, the continue to spew their propaganda and agenda irregardless of truth.

 

Personally I think Liberal or Conservative all the politicians or at least most of them are part of the same super rich group with makes this country more of a plutocracy than a representative democracy. In the end they're all pulling for their own interest more than the common man's. So I vote for who I think is really representing me and people like me even if those types of individual are few and far between. Most of the time it is choosing the lesser of two evils.

A Liberal would say
“Shooting the enemy on the battle field is a crime against humanity even if he is shooting back..”

A Conservative would say
“Disagreeing with any of our military decisions is the same as not supporting the troops.”

 

Plutocracy or not, most countries in the world are run by the affluent/eleet. It is usually due tot he fact that it takes a great amount of ability, be it on their part or on the part of their ancestors. Therefore those individuals are more predisposed to lead and make proper decisions.

A misconception in your statement however is that the United States is supposed to be a representative democracy. In its inception it was never planed to much such. The governing policy was crafted to make America a Republic, not a representative democracy. Athens was a democracy, the US is a republic.

 

Hey Mr B,
I have flown some cobras but they were all being slung load by a chinook! (I am a ch-47 flight engineer)