Wow, you don't think Fox news is biased? That's amazing.

 

Nope,

Sure they have traditionalists like Bill, O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, but they also have liberals like Goraldo, Greta van Susteren and Alan Colmes.

 

Responding to Democrats who say more troops were NOT going to help, President Bush (in an attempt to build bipartisan support) said he ordered the deployment of ONE soldier:

 

Well, lets really see what the S-P's want shall we?

"Progressives want political equality, good public schools, healthy children, care for the aged, police protection, family farms, air you can breath, water you can drink, fish in out streams, forests you can hike in, song birds and frogs, livable cities, ethical business, journalists who tell the truth, music and dace, poetry and art, and jobs that pay a living wage to everyone who works."

~George Lackoff "Don't Think Of An Elephant" [the S-P manifesto]

This all sounds good right? And this is how they get more individuals to join their crooked ranks. But unfortunately this reads much like another book, written in 1848 by a man named Karl Marks... sounds familiar? It should George Lakoff is rewriting the Communist Manifesto.

Lets begin with "political equality" shall we. I have always thought that this was guaranteed by the Constitution, and there are legal remedies if violations of political equality occur. So what exactly is Comrade Lakoff talking about? What he is talking about shows itself in George where a law was recently passed requiring a Photo ID when you come to vote, this was intended to stop voter fraud - that is people voting more then once, or voting my illegal aliens. Sounds reasonable to me but I guess the S-P and ACLU thought otherwise, they are taking this matter to court saying it puts an "undue burden on the poor" The ACLU is saying that poor people do not hate the official identification papers to get a photo ID from the state, even thought George will provide ID's free of charge. Wow the S-Ps make so much sense. The reason why the S-P's want to eliminate photo ID's is in fear that it may take away the illegal alien vote, a vote that often goes to S-P's and liberals. So how is this political equality if some one who does not pay taxes and is not in this country legally can have the same right as you who pays his/her taxes and is in American through legal means?

Lets move on to "good public schools". The "No Child Left Behind Act" instituted by the Bush administration put billions of dollars into public schools, but it also asked for accountability from the school for the performance of the teachers. Put progressives appose standardized testing, and do not want teachers evaluated based upon the academic proficiency of their students. So according to S-P's "good public schools" are a place where teachers nurture rather then challenge children mentally in the classroom. S-P schools want to embrace the concept of "social promotion". The S-P evaluation of children is based on their potential, not his or her actual achievements. So basically, if S-P's take power within 15 years a HS graduate would not be able to do 2 + 2 [let alone spell, right Bob? ]

We are doing a good job so far cutting through the Secular Progressive bull sh*t. Lets continue.

"Healthy Children", now I wonder what Lakoff means by that? In the Secular Progressive world a "healthy" child is one who enters the public school system as early as possible, is shepherded through childhood by public school nannies, and indoctrinated with progressive values at a very early age.

Next we go to "care for aged". Here he wants the government to pay all the bills for elderly Americans who have limited means. This is very much like communism. From cradle to grave right? A lot of old folkes vote don't they? This is a wonderful platform for the Liberals. Forget working for your retirement, forget responsible investment and 401K's let the government take care of you when you are old. After all, the young people who are working will pickup the tab with higher taxes.

Fifth Commi Lakoff mentions "police protection" However progressive police is far different from the police we are used to. The S-P's want restorative justice, that is when a Child Molester in Vermont gets 90 days in jail after molesting a child from age 6 to age 10. Four continues years of raping a child, and the S-P judge gives him 90 days because he needs to be threated rather then a long jail sentence. I guess with a S-P leadership the rapist will get police protection, but will his 6 year old victim? I guess not.

The one thing I cant argue against is the "Family Farm" issue. I like family farms, but I don't want to pay for them, nothing personal its simply capitalism.

The next point is the environment. I mean who can say no to songbirds and frogs. But how to the S-P's expect to provide them w/o killing the tax payer? I never hear an answer from the left side.

As for ethical business, George Lakoff would like massive government to directly oversee them. Perhaps Fidel Castro could consult this project.

Now we go to "journalists who tell the truth" Now Lakoff is on record condemning everything that has ever happened on Fox News. I guess the S-Ps don't think its fair and balanced hu? But would the S-P's force Air America NRP or Al Frankin to stop smearing their liberal fecease all over America?

Another point in the new S-P Communism Manifesto is "music and dace..." As before the libs want YOU to pay for the arts. I wonder how many of you would like to pay for the Art Exhibit that took place in the Brooklyn Museum that featured the Virgin Mary covered with animal sh*t. How about poetry? as the poet laureate of New Jersey, Amiri Baraka wrote poems blaming the Jews for the attack on 9/11 and you the taxpayer payed for it.

And finally we move onto "jobs that pay a living wage for everyone who works" I may be wrong, but is that not right out of the mouth of Mao Zedong. Just who determines what a living wage should be? Not the employer right? The S-P's want some government official to decide how much Wall Mart should pay their employees. That is called socialism, not capitalism and it belongs in China and the former Soviet Union, not the United States.

So there you go, its very nice to like the ideas of the Secular Progressives, the only problem is when you really think about what they mean. They would like to turn the Unites States, the most successful capitalist country in the world, into the next Soviet Union. Wonderful ain't it.

 

All you liberals are the same...


I guess you think that CNN is fair and accurate right?


Please...when you can make an argument that doesn't involve one of the 5 talking points

It's all the neo cons
It's talk radio
Bush lied
Karl Rove is the devil
FNC is NOT fair and balanced.

...maybe I'll start to take yall serious...but until then...

 

WS6...obviously, you've never heard of the "fairness docterine," have you? No matter how much the First Ammendment is pissed on in the process....


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

 

 

David Duke for president.

 

right now i don't care as long as its not Hitler Hillary.

 

SIG!!!!

 

the fairness doctrine? what does a law proposed by liberals to kill the success of conservative radio [which is successful because smart people don;t want to listen to the ramblings of Al Frankin, NPR, and Air America] have to dow ith anything I said?

The Fairness Doctrine is a poorly veiled attempt by the left to soften the blow of their defeat in radio.

 

Lol, get your nose out of the air, man. Smart people. Riiight.

 

First off no, I was going with the point that all news outlets are biased one way or the other. Well Bush is the President and I am not satisfied with the way he is running the show so if I have a gripe with that then it will involve Bush lied.

I'd like to see the cons make an arguement that doesn't involve some form of a straw man arguement, making an assumption on what people believe, pulling something out of context, ignoring something that was said or thinking that disagreeing with something means you hate the whole idea and not just some off the semantics.

Oh WS6, I could punch holes in 90% of those snippets but it's not worth the time. Oh wait that's what I was told.

Is Communism good? No, but parts of it are. Just as the right wants to push us towards Facism. Is Facism good? No, but there are parts that are good. The world is not black and white, and keeping blinders on will only hurt us.

Actually I'll hit one for you, teaching for a test is not effective as an educational tool. It fails to develop all information that needs to be and narrows the scope to what is on the test. Which in turn forces schools to form curriculum around what is on the test. That is not a way to educate. Education and science has been murdered to put more money into defense. It's a travesty and will bite us in the ***, hard. Our education system is slipping further and further behind other countries. Our system is based off of 1950's ideals and methods and does not support the current enviroment we live in. There is more technology newer methods and better ways to educate, adding a test at the end is not the way to make it better. The country will not listen to teachers because thier ideas will cost money and we're to busy spending billions on new nuclear weapons technology to spend it on something that is important.

Enter someone saying "yeehaw, my schooling done worked for me just like it'll work for these damn kids".

 

Actually by the definition of smart (established earlier) people who have degrees are smart, funny. Universities are haven for the soulless liberals. Always practicing thier american rights by having thier damn un-american protests.

 

Its a thread like this that shows you why we will have H!llary as the next pres!dent. Hope you are happy.

 

...and why would that make me happy? Cause you and the rest of the folks here like to pigeon hole all liberals? You may be shocked to learn that some people make choices on things based on individual situations and not how thier party label aligns them. Also there are some people who do not choose a party label. And even further more there are people who have views on both sides of the spectrum.

The only thing this thread shows is that the majority of people who drive american "muscle" cars have views that go very far right. That in fact is not shocking.

 

What did I say there that would lead to believe im a conservative or liberal? My statement was general and not directed at you either...rather the mentality of this thread. Of course your assumption is way off base...This thread only shows a majority of conservatives respond/support this thread... I would guess most of these fine individuals would say they are not "very far right conservatives" so it has nothing to do with who owns what car. I think most reasonable individuals wouldnt respond or would make general comments like I did. My comment referred to the last election should be a good indication of the next..and we all know why that is...but Ive been wrong before.

 

I was under the impression it was directed at me. That's where I came up with my other conclusions and then ran with it. If that ain't you then cool.

I would guess the opposite about most of the people ppsting, but then again I was just making a few sweaping generalizations cause that is the apparent tone in here.

 

[QUOTE=obsolete346]You're only in company with 30% of the country. The rest of us realized he's a tool bag.

QUOTE]

Your quoting statistics that you should know dont mean crap.

Bottom line is....ahhhh, forget it.

 

woo hoo i made it into someones signature.