Florida Members Fun, sun and LS1's

Going to Gainesville Tonight

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:00 PM
  #1  
98TA6.0's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
From: Austin, Texas
Default Going to Gainesville Tonight

i'm taking the TA to Gainesville tonight to get some shakedown passes. if anyone else is heading that way gimme a holler. i'll be in a 98 NBM WS6. i'll post times tonight. shooting for mid elevens and probably gonna get kicked off because i dont have a cage.
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:54 PM
  #2  
Ocala93TA's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 457
Likes: 0
From: Citrus springs Fl
Default

if i was done with my ram air setup i would join in ! good luck with your times
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 06:08 PM
  #3  
98TA6.0's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
From: Austin, Texas
Default

****!!!! i was doing some shakedown digs before i was to head out tonight. check this out. my Yella Terras took a **** on me. well one shaft set did at least. here's the damage. 2500 miles and only one set bit it? that's gotta be a manufacturing problem. i'm taking the other 7 sets to work tomorrow to get Eddy Current inspected as well as Magnetic Particle inspected to verify they are alright.
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 07:24 PM
  #4  
Ocala93TA's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 457
Likes: 0
From: Citrus springs Fl
Default

holly **** ! thats not good !! didnt break anything eles did it?
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:04 PM
  #5  
Doc's Avatar
Doc
FormerVendor
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,573
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville, Fl
Default

Originally Posted by 98TA6.0
****!!!! i was doing some shakedown digs before i was to head out tonight. check this out. my Yella Terras took a **** on me. well one shaft set did at least. here's the damage. 2500 miles and only one set bit it? that's gotta be a manufacturing problem. i'm taking the other 7 sets to work tomorrow to get Eddy Current inspected as well as Magnetic Particle inspected to verify they are alright.
That sucks. Part out the weak so that the strong can go to the front of the line. No further damage?

Doc
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:09 PM
  #6  
98TA6.0's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
From: Austin, Texas
Default

not sure why only one rocker broke though. luckily nothing else was broken. pushrods and rocker pedestals look great. i'll find out if there is further damage tomorrow morning.
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2009 | 10:11 AM
  #7  
SlowSS416's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Default

That SUCKS. good luck putting it back together bud
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2009 | 03:28 PM
  #8  
98TA6.0's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
From: Austin, Texas
Default

i put the stock rockers in and it runs great now. i called TSP and a new set is on the way. i magnetic particle inspected the other 7 sets and they checked fine so it had to be a defect with the rocker itself.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 8, 2009 | 03:38 PM
  #9  
Local-heretic's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Default

Sorry to hear that man, but it's good that nothing else was damaged.

This reminds me of someone that told me that stock rockers weren't a good idea when putting new heads on.
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2009 | 06:14 PM
  #10  
Fatbum's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
From: Navarre, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Local-heretic
Sorry to hear that man, but it's good that nothing else was damaged.

This reminds me of someone that told me that stock rockers weren't a good idea when putting new heads on.

Stock rockers with the Comp Cams Trurion upgrade are the best you can get without going extreme. Its cheap and it makes the stock rocker far superior to any of the aluminum "Yella Terras", "Skorpion" etc rockers. The aftermarket rockers are weaker and have the most weight over the WRONG part of the valvetrain. Do a search for stock rockers breaking (other then the bearings) and then the aftermarket rockers breaking. It's kind of obvious.

The upgrade is only $130. I know someone who can rebuild your stockers for $200 with the upgrade, clean them out and send them back to you.
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2009 | 06:39 PM
  #11  
98TA6.0's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
From: Austin, Texas
Default

there's nothing wrong with using aftermarket roller tip rockers. they arent weaker or by any means inferior to stock arms. true stock rockers are strong and fine in any 500+ hp car. shaft mount roller tip rockers will allow your valve guides and precious titanium retainers to last a bit longer and also rev a bit more controlled at higher RPMs. i've taken stock rockers to 7400 rpm and worked just fine. i have a new set on the way (warrantied replacement. Yella Terra has great customer service by the way) and they will be in and ready for Gainesville next wednesday. hopefully they stay together this time.
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2009 | 09:04 PM
  #12  
Fatbum's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
From: Navarre, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by 98TA6.0
there's nothing wrong with using aftermarket roller tip rockers. they arent weaker or by any means inferior to stock arms. true stock rockers are strong and fine in any 500+ hp car. shaft mount roller tip rockers will allow your valve guides and precious titanium retainers to last a bit longer and also rev a bit more controlled at higher RPMs. i've taken stock rockers to 7400 rpm and worked just fine. i have a new set on the way (warrantied replacement. Yella Terra has great customer service by the way) and they will be in and ready for Gainesville next wednesday. hopefully they stay together this time.
I'd say yes, they are definitely weaker.

Yella Terra does have great customer service I hear, so at least when something does break, it will get replaced.
However, how many stock rocker arms have you seen shattered compared to aftermarket aluminum? What about the trurion upgrade or Harland Sharp? I have seen zero. Without searching, but zero.

You upgrade to Trunion Bearings and I'm willing to bet it will out last and sustain high rpms way longer.

The roller tip actually has more weight over the valve then the stock rockers. Which is where you don't want it. Dyno tests have shown 1hp gains from roller tips, so why people do it is beyond me.
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 02:16 PM
  #13  
Local-heretic's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Default

^
+1

I've read the horror stories here about many aftermarket rockers doing the same things yours did. Not only that, but quite a few shops have told me the same thing.

I think Doc's Camaro still uses stock rockers.
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:12 AM
  #14  
pittman's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,206
Likes: 0
From: Orange Park Fl
Default

Originally Posted by Local-heretic
^
+1

I've read the horror stories here about many aftermarket rockers doing the same things yours did. Not only that, but quite a few shops have told me the same thing.

I think Doc's Camaro still uses stock rockers.
I put stock rockers on both my Stroker motors !!
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:56 AM
  #15  
WS6nJAX's Avatar
Restricted User
iTrader: (207)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
From: jacksonville, fl.
Default

went back to stock myself after an HS failure
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:24 AM
  #16  
vettenuts's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 13
From: Little Rhody
Default

This is a known issue with a few rocker arms (not sets). Here is a link to the explanation as provided by Yella Terra: Link They will replace the set for you.

If you are running AFR heads with the stock rockers, did you set the wipe? If not, you will be looking at high wear on your valve guides. Also, did you correctly set the wipe on the Yella Terra's? If not, set the wipe first then measure for the pushrod length. Don't follow the instructions on LS1howto.com, they are not correct for installing YT's.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:38 AM
  #17  
Fatbum's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
From: Navarre, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by vettenuts
This is a known issue with a few rocker arms (not sets). Here is a link to the explanation as provided by Yella Terra: Link They will replace the set for you.

If you are running AFR heads with the stock rockers, did you set the wipe? If not, you will be looking at high wear on your valve guides. Also, did you correctly set the wipe on the Yella Terra's? If not, set the wipe first then measure for the pushrod length. Don't follow the instructions on LS1howto.com, they are not correct for installing YT's.
Don't you think the million dollar question is: Has anyone ever broken a stock rocker with the upgraded bearings?

Compare those to aftermarket rockers themselves, and I think you have a common sense answer.

I rather have the peace of mind with the stockers + the Comp upgrade.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:09 AM
  #18  
Kurtomac's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,220
Likes: 0
From: Okinawa, Japan
Default

Dude quit the stock rockers and regurgitating everything you read on the "other" site....how many stock rockers have puked needle bearings through a motor....go back in your corner and run your stock rockers...the OP seems just fine with getting his YT's replaced and running a true roller for sake of bronze guides...the triunion just came out and the HS upgraded stock rockers still had issues

Last edited by Kurtomac; Oct 14, 2009 at 06:14 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 11:34 AM
  #19  
pittman's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,206
Likes: 0
From: Orange Park Fl
Default

Originally Posted by Kurtomac
Dude quit the stock rockers and regurgitating everything you read on the "other" site....how many stock rockers have puked needle bearings through a motor....go back in your corner and run your stock rockers...the OP seems just fine with getting his YT's replaced and running a true roller for sake of bronze guides...the triunion just came out and the HS upgraded stock rockers still had issues
Hey Homo...go back on base and ride your bicycle !!

And if I pick you up to go to MIR, your riding with the slicks in back of the truck !!
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:43 PM
  #20  
Fatbum's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
From: Navarre, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Kurtomac
Dude quit the stock rockers and regurgitating everything you read on the "other" site....how many stock rockers have puked needle bearings through a motor....go back in your corner and run your stock rockers...the OP seems just fine with getting his YT's replaced and running a true roller for sake of bronze guides...the triunion just came out and the HS upgraded stock rockers still had issues
Actually, i dont need to read anything on "the other site" to know what hasnt broke, all i need to do is hit "new posts" on half the forums out there and aftermarket rockers pop up broken. Why even mention the bearings? I said specifically with the upgrade. So i cant quote hard data for the sake of an argument like where the weight is located on an aftermarket piece? How about you use some common sense. Trying to save someone a headache makes ME the badguy...

Last edited by Fatbum; Oct 14, 2009 at 03:39 PM.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:03 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE