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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Was thinking about taking my car to them to get a tune.

Who would you reccomend rev or nlp, and how much do each cost.


Iv been driven the car for 2 weeks now with the headers and today while driving one of the time its started to bog under hard acceleration. Just took it out for a spin after and did 0-70 runs with no problem... It seemed that the bogging was more in OD then it was in D.

None the less, thanks for your help.

I have until august 29th to get it done so i hope one of the two has openings.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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You'll find guys in here that speak highly of both. I'm a big fan of NLP and they've done great things with my car.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Mike norris and the guys at NLP are the only people who will touch my car.. PERIOD
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Looks like I might have to make a pit stop on the way to/from college


Anyone know how long after your initial tune you get free retunes for?
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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I'd say just give Mike Norris a call at the shop and he'll go over everything with you.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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I'd say just give Mike Norris a call at the shop and he'll go over everything with you.
Give Mike a call, he will answer all of your questions.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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I'd say just give Mike Norris a call at the shop and he'll go over everything with you.

one step ahead of you, been talken via email. Dont have time to call


college finals > me
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Mike is an excellent tuner, just hard to get them when there not swamped with work.
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both shops are great. give them each a call, dont shop around, and go with whoever makes you feel most comfortable. Mike and Dino are guys that will take care of you.

also, dont forget about Vinci Performance as well. in the orlando area, just not as much talked about. its great to have so many ls1 tuners/builders in a small area to chose from!

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by blacktransam
Mike norris and the guys at NLP are the only people who will touch my car.. PERIOD
+ 1.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by EviLS1
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yeah hows ur car coming??
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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Does rev extreme offer free retunes for a certain amt of time after the initial tune?
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Well,...all you guys that think Norris is the bomb, hey may just live up to his name, as he tuned my buddies procharger LT1 with LT1 edit, first off, hey let the car go with 330 rwhp, and 360 rwtq. Worse off, he let the car leave with over 30 degrees of timing in the car. There is alot more to it but, I don't have the time to type it. Bottom line, I had a friend, a local tuning facility, that has never touched an LT1, look at, and tune his car as a favor to me. They did, they also started with 330 rwhp,...then ended up with 378rwhp and 395rwtq with MUCH less timing. The car still has more to be made out of it but, I personally would NOT trust Next level with my car, ever.
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Well,...all you guys that think Norris is the bomb, hey may just live up to his name, as he tuned my buddies procharger LT1 with LT1 edit, first off, hey let the car go with 330 rwhp, and 360 rwtq. Worse off, he let the car leave with over 30 degrees of timing in the car. There is alot more to it but, I don't have the time to type it. Bottom line, I had a friend, a local tuning facility, that has never touched an LT1, look at, and tune his car as a favor to me. They did, they also started with 330 rwhp,...then ended up with 378rwhp and 395rwtq with MUCH less timing. The car still has more to be made out of it but, I personally would NOT trust Next level with my car, ever.
It's good to have people on the board post their experiences and keep us all up to date. However, I must say you missed one key element here - it wasn't your experience. I say this because many times there's a lot more to the story when you get it from the parties involved. Just my .02.
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Originally Posted by LS1ownzYOU
Does rev extreme offer free retunes for a certain amt of time after the initial tune?
why would you need a retune after it being tune? if there are any issues of drivability they will address it for free ofcourse. if you want something changed, no one does a free retune.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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I will only take my car to RevXtreme. No questions asked, Jeremy and Dino are the ones to see IMO.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Hey All,

Thanks for the kind words and Keith it is good to hear from you.

As far as V-seriesTech comments are concerned, from previous experience this person must be a troll. He does have his opinion for sure and no issues there. He also posted on the Corvette Forum about this incident. When I went to tell my side of what was going on, his post disappeared. I saved what he had posted as well as my response in a MS Word document and then sent him an e-mail registered to his Corvette Forum account to see what he had to say. No response at that time. I gues I could stop by Vera Motorsports and ask for Jamie when I am in the area next week.

If anyone is interested I can post his original deleted post, my unposted response as well as my sent e-mail to him. Kind of explains everything from my end and I would also like to hear from the customer also. I do not want to stray too far from the subject as there is some good info here from reputable folks.

Later

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Hey mike, and for all that are interested, I did resend to your email, and I did not delete the post. The moderators did that bub. I welcome you to stop by our establishment at anytime when convienent for you, as I am always here. Please ask for me DIRECTLY. Also, if need be, I know a good tuner.

That said, you emailed to me, and I responded. Why or how you didn't get it in return is news to me.

You can call me a troll, or whatever all you like. I'm an experienced technician, and I know a thing or two about tuning. I'm not here to bash you bub, as I infact wish you the best. The problem is, you did a **** poor job on my close friends car, and you didn't fix the problem. Somebody else had to do it for you. In turn, causing my friend, to spend MORE money to fix the problem. SO was it my PERSONAL experience, your damn right it was. Cause I spent my saturday helping getting his car tuned correctly for him.

Again, mike,........best wishes dude.

Don't forget to stop by, as I would love to shake your hand.

Jamie




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Hey All,

Thanks for the kind words and Keith it is good to hear from you.

As far as V-seriesTech comments are concerned, from previous experience this person must be a troll. He does have his opinion for sure and no issues there. He also posted on the Corvette Forum about this incident. When I went to tell my side of what was going on, his post disappeared. I saved what he had posted as well as my response in a MS Word document and then sent him an e-mail registered to his Corvette Forum account to see what he had to say. No response at that time. I gues I could stop by Vera Motorsports and ask for Jamie when I am in the area next week.

If anyone is interested I can post his original deleted post, my unposted response as well as my sent e-mail to him. Kind of explains everything from my end and I would also like to hear from the customer also. I do not want to stray too far from the subject as there is some good info here from reputable folks.

Later

Mike Norris
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Jamie if your friend's issue was such a big deal, then that FRIEND needs to talk about it in the 1st person. we have a forum specifically for this drama.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Hey gator,

I called and left a message with the customer to get his side of the story as it is all that matters.

V-seriesTech,

I called you a troll only based on four things. One, you only post one side of the story and very limited content. Two, you post to make yourself look like you saved the day. You actually may have which is cool and all, but bragging is tacky. Three, I did not get a return e-mail. You can resend it to both thevettedr@aol.com and mike@nlperformance.com so I can see whats up. Four, the original Corvette Forum message as deleted one way or another. Without knowing it was done by a moderator it looks like troll behavior. Perhaps they thought so also.

Anyhow, you have your opinion which is cool. But when come across as someone who knows it all and nothing else matters it does not bode well here. I am curious, if you did get me e-mail what your response was to each detail. Of course you can let me know via the e-mail response. If you want, I can resend my e-mail to you.

The proper way to handle things would have been to call me when you found out what the issue was and what was done to fix the customers problem. If there is something that we had done directly to cause the issue, the customer would be taken care of. I have no issue with taking care of my mistakes if I honestly did something wrong. Not perfect by any means and have made my share of oops's before. If any one else here, tuner or do it yourselfer, ever says they never made a mistake, you are listening to a liar. It is what you do about it that matters. You can only do something about it if you are properly informed.

I do have a problem with you pretty much saying "you suck and screwed up the car and I got it fixed" instead of being a gentleman and letting me know what really happened. All I hear is that it was fixed but not actually what fixed it. Kind of neanderthal-ish, child-ish and troll-ish. Be cool, handle it like a gentleman and all will always work out.

Anyhow, in the end if the customer is happy that is the best thing. If owe him something, that is my responsibility, but lack of proper communication does no one any good. Like I mentioned before, I am trying to reach the customer to get his side of things. I will be in the area next week and can get him a refund if owed. I will also try to make it by Vera Motorsports if my schedule allows. You are welcome to come by Horsepower Sales also if you have time. I will look for your e-mail.

Thanks for the time everyone and I apologize again for being off topic here. This will be my last post as far as this subject goes. I want to make sure Keith gets the info he is looking for. This is not my style and it should be handled on a more personal level, preferably with the customer.

Mike Norris
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