Right lane at OSW
[quote=ls2 bait;9246004]id say its more to do with the way your car is transfering weight. its unloading after it trys to hook. you are at a level of performace where the stock suspension components are starting to show their weak spots. i know you dont want to buy anymore parts but you are fast approaching the point where they are needed. stock parts were not intended to cut 1.5 60 ft times.
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Great theory, but, not a lot of stock suspesnion parts here. Bilstein (old style) shocks on 4 corners, BMR adj TA, BMR SFC's, Spohn LCA'S/P/H Bar, BMR D/S safety loop, BMR relo brackets.
With a Yank ProThruster 4000 TC and 440/415 (A4), I should be cutting AT LEAST low 1.5x 60' times. ET should be better. I know this simply because I can't stomp it hard without spinning. Weight transfer is a problem and suspension tuning is a problem, as well. Still, I ALWAYS 60' and ET better in the left lane at OSW.
It's not in my head, it's on the friggin' timeslips I have collected the past 8 months ... got a boxful of them now.
That's what it looks like to me. I think you're right. I only say the car has more in it because I have spun everytime I have tried to flash the converter by stomping it off the line. I'm changing the relo brackets before going back out. Pinion angle is at -2.5 and the LCA's are in the bottom hole, which I think is hurting my launches ... last hole is too low for my power level. If I was at 500HP+, then, the bottom hole would be good. I'll get the supension right and will post times in my sig as they improve.
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Great theory, but, not a lot of stock suspesnion parts here. Bilstein (old style) shocks on 4 corners, BMR adj TA, BMR SFC's, Spohn LCA'S/P/H Bar, BMR D/S safety loop, BMR relo brackets.
With a Yank ProThruster 4000 TC and 440/415 (A4), I should be cutting AT LEAST low 1.5x 60' times. ET should be better. I know this simply because I can't stomp it hard without spinning. Weight transfer is a problem and suspension tuning is a problem, as well. Still, I ALWAYS 60' and ET better in the left lane at OSW.
It's not in my head, it's on the friggin' timeslips I have collected the past 8 months ... got a boxful of them now.
Originally Posted by SlowasBalls
Also I watched your run from the other and it looked like the it pulled hard, fell off and then picked back up.
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I'm changing the relo brackets before going back out. Pinion angle is at -2.5 and the LCA's are in the bottom hole, which I think is hurting my launches ... last hole is too low for my power level.QUOTE]
The relocation brackets should be what ever hole makes the lower control arms level at ride height. I have time slips that show better times for me in the right lane at all tracks I have been to including OSW. Because of that I always run the right lane . Its in my head, I know it and use it to my advantage. I suggest you do the same.
I'm changing the relo brackets before going back out. Pinion angle is at -2.5 and the LCA's are in the bottom hole, which I think is hurting my launches ... last hole is too low for my power level.QUOTE]
The relocation brackets should be what ever hole makes the lower control arms level at ride height. I have time slips that show better times for me in the right lane at all tracks I have been to including OSW. Because of that I always run the right lane . Its in my head, I know it and use it to my advantage. I suggest you do the same.
Great theory, but, not a lot of stock suspesnion parts here. Bilstein (old style) shocks on 4 corners, BMR adj TA, BMR SFC's, Spohn LCA'S/P/H Bar, BMR D/S safety loop, BMR relo brackets.
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the shocks are a problem. they need to allow the car to transfer the weight and hold it there not rebound back.
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the shocks are a problem. they need to allow the car to transfer the weight and hold it there not rebound back.
I agree about a car needing the adjustability of good shocks like QA1's. But the fact that Jacks car hooks then unloads the suspension away from the line has happened to me at BMP , Gville and OSW on the same suspension settings as a previous run when the car had run low 1.3 60' that same day but when a track is not reprepped the traction goes away unless there's lots of slick tire cars running.
The relocation brackets should be what ever hole makes the lower control arms level at ride height.
the shocks are a problem. they need to allow the car to transfer the weight and hold it there not rebound back.
I agree about a car needing the adjustability of good shocks like QA1's. But the fact that Jacks car hooks then unloads the suspension away from the line has happened to me at BMP , Gville and OSW on the same suspension settings as a previous run when the car had run low 1.3 60' that same day but when a track is not reprepped the traction goes away unless there's lots of slick tire cars running.
Looking through my timeslips, the car did it's best in the left lane pimarily because it was early in the day while the prep was still good. I most always run in the right lane on the 2nd run and then go home. It all makes sense.
My problems are a little of everything mentioned. The suspension is hitting hard and then immediately rebounding/unloading and reloading again. That's exactly how it feels. Looked at the LCA's today and they were at a VERY steep angle ... thought they were fairly parrallel to the ground, but, I was wrong.
Thanks to everybody for all the different angles and my apologies for being so danged stubborn at times and not listening. This time I have listened and I'll now go out convinced the car will achieve it's full potential.
Front adj drag shocks are coming for sure. But for now, next time to the track, (1) the LCA's will be level (may take raising them two holes up); (2) will take the right lane consistently; (3) will be further back in the lanes behind some big slick cars; and (4) will stomp the living **** out of the pedal and will be expecting the tires to stick!!!
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Front adj drag shocks are coming for sure. But for now, next time to the track, (1) the LCA's will be level (may take raising them two holes up); (2) will take the right lane consistently; (3) will be further back in the lanes behind some big slick cars; and (4) will stomp the living **** out of the pedal and will be expecting the tires to stick!!!
I think on Wed/Fri your best traction will be in the left lane because all the fast cars always run left at OSW on TnT.
