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Old 09-25-2003, 05:51 PM
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What's is your transmission M6 or A4?? what about your cam?? what's your car at the rwhp/rwtq after and before the P1SC??
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Hey Fahad,
I heard u have 100 Octane in Kuwait right? If thats true then u can run 10-12psi no worries. People here run 8psi max on pump gas which is 93 octane. For every two points increase in octane u can go 1psi higher. So u can run up to 12psi and u dont have to worry about detonation. Good luck.
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Hey Fahad,
I heard u have 100 Octane in Kuwait right? If thats true then u can run 10-12psi no worries. People here run 8psi max on pump gas which is 93 octane. For every two points increase in octane u can go 1psi higher. So u can run up to 12psi and u dont have to worry about detonation. Good luck.
Yes right. we have Super gold 98 octane and Super green 100 octane. but are sure about this info?? if thats true, what is your advice??
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Dude, Get the Procharger D-1SC, 42lb injectors, and Racetronix Plug and play fuel set-up for 98 F-body's. Hook it all up then get pcm reprogrammed by Ed Wright and go. If in fact you can use 100 octane all of the time then do so and run 8-10 pounds on a stock bottom end! It is not unheard of! It is just something that we cannot do here in the states because we have do not have 100 octane at every fuel station.
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Hey Fahad,
I heard u have 100 Octane in Kuwait right? If thats true then u can run 10-12psi no worries. People here run 8psi max on pump gas which is 93 octane. For every two points increase in octane u can go 1psi higher. So u can run up to 12psi and u dont have to worry about detonation. Good luck.
Yes right. we have Super gold 98 octane and Super green 100 octane. but are sure about this info?? if thats true, what is your advice??
My advice is to run 10-11 or 12psi if u wanna push it on ur stock bottom end with 100 octane. U will be fine with a good tune. If we have 100 octane here most of the guys who are running 8-9 on 93 octane and stock bottom end will be running 10-12psi easily with no problems. As i told u about the rule of octane and boost and how they relate. Every two points increase in octane will allow u to run 1 more psi. U guys are lucky over there with the 100 octane as a pump gas.
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The cam in my car is stock. I have the MODS that are listed on my sig. I put the P1SC on about 1 month after buying my car > so I have no idea what hp it had (315 or so). Right now I have 440hp to the back tires & trq is 420. Thats at 6200rpms. My trany is M6. Good luck!!!
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Dude, Get the Procharger D-1SC, 42lb injectors, and Racetronix Plug and play fuel set-up for 98 F-body's. Hook it all up then get pcm reprogrammed by Ed Wright and go. If in fact you can use 100 octane all of the time then do so and run 8-10 pounds on a stock bottom end! It is not unheard of! It is just something that we cannot do here in the states because we have do not have 100 octane at every fuel station.
already we used the 100 octane all of the time but not all the people here in kuwait cause we have 93 , 98 , 100 octane's

Thanks for the help
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My advice is to run 10-11 or 12psi if u wanna push it on ur stock bottom end with 100 octane. U will be fine with a good tune. If we have 100 octane here most of the guys who are running 8-9 on 93 octane and stock bottom end will be running 10-12psi easily with no problems. As i told u about the rule of octane and boost and how they relate. Every two points increase in octane will allow u to run 1 more psi. U guys are lucky over there with the 100 octane as a pump gas.
I got the rule your advice is very well, yeah.. 100 octane is very nice before i was used the 98 octane, now the 100 octane it's changed the car very much the 100 octane is new from 9 months ago on the fuel stations.

I am glad for your help

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The cam in my car is stock. I have the MODS that are listed on my sig. I put the P1SC on about 1 month after buying my car > so I have no idea what hp it had (315 or so). Right now I have 440hp to the back tires & trq is 420. Thats at 6200rpms. My trany is M6. Good luck!!!
Thanks for your help
Good luck
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I am glad for your help

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Tom Byrne,
Is the D1SC that much better than a P1sc? I have the P1sc, should I upgrade?
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I am glad for your help

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I am glad for your help

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where are you from?? and how you know this word??
Im From Jeddah KSA. I live in the US now for almost 4 years. If u need any help later just send me a PM or E-mail me at Alshareif_f@yahoo.com
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Do you think that there is enough LS1 aftermarket work in Kuwait or Dubai to support a shop there?

i.e. if there was a specialist in LS1s who only worked on LS1s would there be enough business to support the shop?

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Do you think that there is enough LS1 aftermarket work in Kuwait or Dubai to support a shop there?

i.e. if there was a specialist in LS1s who only worked on LS1s would there be enough business to support the shop?

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I dont think soo. If the shop was working of BMW's MB's u will make way more business than working on LS1's. Alot of people there dont know what LS1 means and what LS1 can do.
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Do you think that there is enough LS1 aftermarket work in Kuwait or Dubai to support a shop there?

i.e. if there was a specialist in LS1s who only worked on LS1s would there be enough business to support the shop?

chris
I dont think soo. If the shop was working of BMW's MB's u will make way more business than working on LS1's. Alot of people there dont know what LS1 means and what LS1 can do.
LSs1Power. if you talking about kuwait you're wrong. we have 15's performance shop's just for GM's & Ford's cars, don't forget the track

Chris. yes we have a specialist in LS1's, LT1's, TPI's. you can't image what they can do here in kuwait but without dyno test may can i say same the US.
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All I would worry about is not driving in the rain and getting the tuning done correctly. DONT DONT DONT install it and go for a test drive just to see what it can do before you tune it! You could easily go for a 10 min drive and BOOOM!!!! I know of a person that blew his engine up 3 days after the install just because he didnt tune it right away! Just to let you know best tuning is done with wide band dyno tuning. I know kuwait doesnt have tuning sorry to hear that. Also Dont go for air to fuel ratio gauges! Go with Fuel pressure gauges! They are much more accurate. Its hard to get an air/fuel gauge set up that is done with good accuracy. If you want to monitor your gauges for safety you might as well get an accurate one to begin with! Plus with a supercharger you have to make sure your fuel is being fed accurately.

With 8# of boost expect about 450RWHP and torque at about the same level. Headers will definetly be a good investment for supercharging but again make sure the tuning is done after installing the headers.

Keep in mind that a D1 procharger will only boost until about 6200 RPMs. If you have a cam your rev limit will hit about 6900 RPMs so you wont be making any much power within the 700rpm until you hit the REV limit. Something you should keep in mind.

I was very dedicated to the D1SC right until I saw the dyno sheets. Hope you know that with an 8# procharger it will ONLY start giving you 8#s of boost at 6000+ Rpms. Even at full throttle you will not see more than 5.5 #s of boost at 5000 RPMS. TAKE MY WORD FOR IT I KNOW THIS FOR SURE. The procharger is setup to be very linear to RPMs.

This link should give you a great idea what to expect from the supercharger that you want with your stock setup. Read the RPM increments sheets and notice the boost throughout the whole RPMS under where it says vacuum:

http://www.californiamasseys.com/formula.html

Being that you have 100 octane fuel you are in major luck for no engine problems. Just try not to get too gready on boost and your engine wont blow.

I also know that Kuwait gets really hot in the summer. Your car wont perform well with hot temperatures so I would be careful. Remeber your air to air intercoolers cool your intake to run more reliabily but sucking in hot air could make your air intake temperature worse. That you have to monitor as I dont know of anyone that has a procharger system in those kind of weathers. You might need a bigger radiator and a 160 thermostat and maybe even bigger fans. Those should help you out a lot in hot temps.

Even though 10#s is pushing it on the motor, if I were to go supercharged I would not go any lower than that boost level BUT HAVE IT DONE RIGHT! With 8#s of boost on your motor a stock LS1 would be able to beat you if he were to spray a 150 shot of nitrous. Thats the only reason I would want to go with 10# of boost. I simply cannot accept to pay around $7000 and get beaten by someone spending $500-$1000 in his mods as I would think it would make me look stupid. But thats just me.

The stock rear will also be a weak part with the supercharger installed. If you go to the track make sure you dont lauch at high RPMs and avoid slicks as much as possible. The rear will never break if the tires spin a little.

Wish you luck with it and by the way it sounds VERY nice. You will hear it the most at idle and wont hear it much when racing (especially if you have loud exhausts) but as soon as you take your foot off the gas pedal the Blow off Valve will sound super nice you will have a huge smile on your face.
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LSs1Power. if you talking about kuwait you're wrong. we have 15's performance shop's just for GM's & Ford's cars, don't forget the track
Then I stand corrected. I was wondering why ur ET looks off.... Ur ET looks very high for ur trapspeed?



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