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Old 04-27-2009 | 08:07 PM
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I am going to be starting a build up on a 2000 Trans Am. This is gonna be a rear mount build keeping all the DD stuff in it. The goal is 600hp with a forged aluminum bottom end. Im looking for all the suggestions and ect. Wanna make this a nice DD car with quick spool and a blast on the streets.

Car:
2000 TA
M6
Bone Stock
AC
DD
Reliable.

Plans:
Forged Engine
Tick Tranny
Midwest Chassis 9 inch 3.45 gear
All suspension Mods


The first step in the build is going to be a rear mounted turbo kit, engine and rear end and .

Motor Work
Rods?
Pistons?
Stock Crank
Stock Heads
Cam?

Turbo Kit
Need help sizing a turbo for both fast spool and power Masterpower T70 with a .68 ar?

We are going to get the car this weekend and will pry order everything we need as well.

Looking for suggestions.
Old 04-28-2009 | 12:15 AM
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600whp or 600bhp? Assuming whp.

My setup is overkill for what your goals are but here it is so maybe you can get some ideas.

I use a Callies Dragonslayer crank, forged everything, 383cid
Cr is about 8.7:1
Bauer custom turbo cam
Dart Pro1 225 heads
Nick Williams/FAST 90
4" FMIC
SD tuned
GT76, .81 ar
60# injectors
And all the other things that add up

I think the T70 is a good choice if all you want is 600whp. Someone else can help you size the one you need better. Keep the cubes between 370-383, get a good IC. Maybe call Bauer and have them do the cam for you.
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He wants whp. the main thing is a quick spool up.
Old 04-28-2009 | 07:13 PM
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i would suggest a tc76 or tc78. it will give you room to grow when you want more power and they both have fast spool up.
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Just bought this.
http://carsforsale.com/Find_A_Vehicl...x?vid=95815564
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What it has will get your goals. Forged bottom end is a must.
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he is thinking abut running a stock 6.0 bottom end with meth
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At 600whp, you are pushing it. Some have done it successfully, but the pages of this website are littered with #7 ringlands and broken dreams from those who have not.

I would strongly suggest conservative tuning, a strong fuel system, an intercooler, and <550whp on a stock LSx rotating assembly. Looks like the OP has the intercooler covered.

As for meth, it is just a band-aid substitute for good gas IMO. If you use it, tune it as if you did not have it, or there's no point...because if you run out when you need it, you've got problems.
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At 600whp, you are pushing it. Some have done it successfully, but the pages of this website are littered with #7 ringlands and broken dreams from those who have not.

I would strongly suggest conservative tuning, a strong fuel system, an intercooler, and <550whp on a stock LSx rotating assembly. Looks like the OP has the intercooler covered.

As for meth, it is just a band-aid substitute for good gas IMO. If you use it, tune it as if you did not have it, or there's no point...because if you run out when you need it, you've got problems.
i used to be a fan of methanol until a few weeks ago...buddy of mine had a meth setup on his evo on a brand new motor. Something went wrong in the meth system and filled a cylinder with methanol..long story short, pieces of the block/internals were scattered all over the road. just my .02
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Looks like im going to have to step my game up. Starting to see some high hp stuff here in the sticks...
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Update:

Motors in and I ran into 1 snag so far. I overlooked the 6.0 crank spacer, got that pulled back apart tonight. Trannys in,tq in, Need to finish the wire tuck hook up exhaust and charge pipes, fill fluids and should be ready to deliver on friday.

Ill get more recent pics later after I finish everything.

The white paint will all be gone one he pulls the bumper to paint.
Old 06-02-2009 | 01:46 AM
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good job on the painting. also why not go front mount with a forged 347 ?
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Its all done and he has driven the hell outta it pry 300 miles in 2 days lol.





Need to find a plastic 90 or a reinforced on if any one knows a good place.
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Any reason for the blue engine bay? What 90 are you talkin about, the one from the throttle body?
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Yea red white and blue usa.



ok im lied the whole car is getting repainted within a few weeks. Ya The elbow from the tb.
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That's what I figured.

sent you a pm
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Updates off camera phone pics. Photo shoot will be soon.







Its all jambed and wet sanded color and clear should be sprayed tonight. Sit out all day tommarrow and buff tommarrow.

Here is a pic of the body before wetsanding and buffing.




Cant wait to see it in the sunlight. Indoor does the color no justice.

Late update!
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How much HP are these garrett 60s good for compared to a MP T70?
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Getting Closer


Ill be installing the meth and working on a tune for more boost tommarrow. Ill take my actual camera and get some pics
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I did not read eveyones post.. But I has a STS GT70 on my formula that was slightly modified.
60 lbs injector and a FMIC
I stoped at 605rwhp and I was doing that with 12psi. My spool was not that good but I did not have my exhast raped up.

But 12 psi was the magic # for me
If your car was only pushing 300rwhp stock you would then need 14.7psi give or take psi to double it.



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