Which supercharger combo to go 10.0s
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Which supercharger combo to go 10.0s I am looking for a new combo for the 04 season. I already have a built bottom end and just need a top end and SC.
Which SC/Boost/IC setup can I use to go 10.0s in a Corvette.
Phillip
Which SC/Boost/IC setup can I use to go 10.0s in a Corvette.
Phillip
I was thinking about trying a Novi 2000. Has anyone used one on an LS1? I read that they are the "most effiecient" of the centrifugals, and that this blower can support over 1000hp. What do you guys think of it?
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600RWHP will not be enough to run 10.00 with a full weight Corvette and an M6.
You will need closer to 700RWHP and 700RWTQ. Look at No Mercy's car and SW's car for example. Also, Harlan went 10.000 with 700RWHP.
600 should be good for high tens with an M6, mid-10's with an auto.
You will need closer to 700RWHP and 700RWTQ. Look at No Mercy's car and SW's car for example. Also, Harlan went 10.000 with 700RWHP.
600 should be good for high tens with an M6, mid-10's with an auto.
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Originally Posted by Crunch
600RWHP will not be enough to run 10.00 with a full weight Corvette and an M6.
You will need closer to 700RWHP and 700RWTQ. Look at No Mercy's car and SW's car for example. Also, Harlan went 10.000 with 700RWHP.
600 should be could for high tens with an M6, mid-10's with an auto.
You will need closer to 700RWHP and 700RWTQ. Look at No Mercy's car and SW's car for example. Also, Harlan went 10.000 with 700RWHP.
600 should be could for high tens with an M6, mid-10's with an auto.
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Originally Posted by 422 SS
I went 10.91 with a ARE 6.0 liter and a D-1 6sp@3840 lbs in a camaro ss.Car made 565 rear wheel.I think low 10's could be done with 525rwhp in a C-5.
Phillip, 600RWHP can break 10.00's with a TH-400, transbrake, slicks, skinnies, and a very light car. But who wants to do that with a nice C5 Corvette?
Here's a link to SW's car that ran 9.98 with over 700RWHP, 3200 lb raceweight, and perfect shifting. If you can do that with only 600RWHP, you're freakin' God man.
In my opinion, you'll need a lot more than a D-1SC or Vortech V2-SQ to run 10.00's without gutting the car and switching to an auto tranny.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by scott ws6
hey crunch I am 600 rwhp and I went 10.30 in july. I will go in the 9's once the tranny is fixed with still only 600 rwhp
I'm not saying its impossible, just not bloody likely.
Last edited by Crunch; Nov 21, 2003 at 06:31 AM.
Crunch, I think that you are handicapping stuff too much.
700rwhp at like 3400 raceweight is good for 9.30's in auto car. So it's only good for 10.doh's in a stick car? I'm not just LS1, I am JUST talking about 700rwhp.
600rwhp with a stick, slicks, 3400 raceweight, and a good driver will go low 10's.
Harlan went 10.doh but the mph is indicative of mid 9 second potential.
700rwhp at like 3400 raceweight is good for 9.30's in auto car. So it's only good for 10.doh's in a stick car? I'm not just LS1, I am JUST talking about 700rwhp.
600rwhp with a stick, slicks, 3400 raceweight, and a good driver will go low 10's.
Harlan went 10.doh but the mph is indicative of mid 9 second potential.
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Show me a six speed supercharged LS1 Corvette with 600 peak RWHP that runs 10.00.
No Mercy and SW did it, but with another 100RWHP, and with nitrous - NOT a blower (i.e. monster torque, and no peaky HP impeller).
I'm not trying to handicap Phillp's car before it even gets started, I'm just being realistic, based on the hundreds of racing videos I've watched.
For example, theres a guy over on the Corvette Forum that just went high 9's with a D1-SC. But guess what, that was also with a 150 shot of direct port nitrous!!
Like I said, good luck, but don't be dissapointed if it doesn't run 10 seconds flat with only the supercharger.
No Mercy and SW did it, but with another 100RWHP, and with nitrous - NOT a blower (i.e. monster torque, and no peaky HP impeller).
I'm not trying to handicap Phillp's car before it even gets started, I'm just being realistic, based on the hundreds of racing videos I've watched.
For example, theres a guy over on the Corvette Forum that just went high 9's with a D1-SC. But guess what, that was also with a 150 shot of direct port nitrous!!
Like I said, good luck, but don't be dissapointed if it doesn't run 10 seconds flat with only the supercharger.
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I think what has happened is guys get confused with heavy street combos vs lighter race combos when they discuss parts.
The street combos waste a LOT of hp. I am guilty of that as well but am going the strip route now.
You need to look to the other camps for reference of what is possible simply because there is not enough hardcore ls1 blown combos running around.
For instance, street renegade Ford 306ci, Vortech Sq trim, stock TFS heads and STOCK factory cam- just ran 9.94 at 135mph.
So lets' see here fellows..
The car has less cubes, smaller S trim blower, a ridiculous small stock cam,and unported TFS heads yet ran a high 9 at 135mph.
That's a nice very efficient use of parts.
You do NOT need a huge blower or any additional nitrous if you choose your combo properly and are primarily building a strip car simply to run 10'.0s.
Plus the tuning is huge in making or breaking the combo. Pump gas is also a biggy in holding guys back with the power.
Steve
The street combos waste a LOT of hp. I am guilty of that as well but am going the strip route now.
You need to look to the other camps for reference of what is possible simply because there is not enough hardcore ls1 blown combos running around.
For instance, street renegade Ford 306ci, Vortech Sq trim, stock TFS heads and STOCK factory cam- just ran 9.94 at 135mph.
So lets' see here fellows..
The car has less cubes, smaller S trim blower, a ridiculous small stock cam,and unported TFS heads yet ran a high 9 at 135mph.
That's a nice very efficient use of parts.
You do NOT need a huge blower or any additional nitrous if you choose your combo properly and are primarily building a strip car simply to run 10'.0s.
Plus the tuning is huge in making or breaking the combo. Pump gas is also a biggy in holding guys back with the power.
Steve
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The original question that started the thread was which supercharger kit will get a C5 Corvette into the 10.00's. This is not about F-bodies and Mustangs.
All I'm saying is based on the hundreds of races I've seen, I don't believe an ATI D-1SC, a Vortech V2-SQ, Magnacharger, or any other off-the-shelf blower kit will be enough to get a C5 to run that time. You will either need a shot of nitrous, more cubic inches, and/or some SERIOUS weight reduction.
Let me put it this way:
I'm assuming Phillip plans on putting a blower on his current C5. As of right now (according to his signature), he's running very high compression, a very big cam, with a 111LSA, and spinning the motor very high. By the time you finish undoing all of this to get ready for a blower, the car would most likely be back up in the high 11's.
Then add the supercharger.
Now if you guys are trying to convice Phillip that he can just go buy one of these blower kits, and then go to the track and jump from high 11's to 10.00's.... C'mon.
All I'm saying is based on the hundreds of races I've seen, I don't believe an ATI D-1SC, a Vortech V2-SQ, Magnacharger, or any other off-the-shelf blower kit will be enough to get a C5 to run that time. You will either need a shot of nitrous, more cubic inches, and/or some SERIOUS weight reduction.
Let me put it this way:
I'm assuming Phillip plans on putting a blower on his current C5. As of right now (according to his signature), he's running very high compression, a very big cam, with a 111LSA, and spinning the motor very high. By the time you finish undoing all of this to get ready for a blower, the car would most likely be back up in the high 11's.
Then add the supercharger.
Now if you guys are trying to convice Phillip that he can just go buy one of these blower kits, and then go to the track and jump from high 11's to 10.00's.... C'mon.
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Now if you guys are trying to convice Phillip that he can just go buy one of these blower kits, and then go to the track and jump from high 11's to 10.00's.... C'mon.
Going from high 11's to 10.0s is nothing if your going to build a real blower combo. Plenty of 8 sec cars that would probably be in the high 11's if they removed their turbos or blowers.Of course the rest of the car has to be able to utilize the power.
But you can't think of a blown motor like that, a blown motor is built around it's supercharger/turbo.
It's a complete combo.
Of course, Crunch you are just another lowly F-Body guy like Steve and I right? I don't see a Corvette in your sig.
Sorry, but take SW for example. He went what, like 10.8 on motor? And what on spray? He was spraying a single TNT kit so maybe 150-200 shot through the throttle body? I doubt he made 700rwhp with that car.
Take your 138mph example. It says nothing about how the guy drivers, how he launches, what tires he's on etc.
Sorry, but take SW for example. He went what, like 10.8 on motor? And what on spray? He was spraying a single TNT kit so maybe 150-200 shot through the throttle body? I doubt he made 700rwhp with that car.
Take your 138mph example. It says nothing about how the guy drivers, how he launches, what tires he's on etc.