View Poll Results: Best Engine Management System for LSx Platform?
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Which Aftermarket Engine Management System?
I am running the AEM plug and play and love it. It has all the things the other brand offer and is easy to setup and use. The best part is it fits in the stock 99+ pcm housing and you dont have to do anything to the stock harness and all the stock guages still work. I got a deal and paid $800 for it new.
Staging Lane
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LOS....
Hey buddy I have the MSII the one that runs the coils.You could go to Jake[PBTH]or you could call him,so he could xplain to you more about it.
I'm the one that Jake call for the xtra motor...sorry I'm keeping it..good luck
Hey buddy I have the MSII the one that runs the coils.You could go to Jake[PBTH]or you could call him,so he could xplain to you more about it.
I'm the one that Jake call for the xtra motor...sorry I'm keeping it..good luck
I'm pretty sure that Steve (twin TC78 build in question) will be using the BS3 though.
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Verdad Gallardo Apparently, controlling the stock coils is more complicated than a distributor. They all control them. The MSII uses a wasted spark method that I believe fires on both the compression and exhaust strokes. The FAST needs another module that, from what I have read, causes some sort of delay that can create issues which basically makes the FAST a non-option. Not sure if the BS3 controls the stock coils using wasted spark or if it works like the stock PCM. I know that most of the guys going over 180mph in the 1/4 are using distributors.
9 Second Club
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From: Norn Iron
Its no different to trigger an LS coil than it is ANY other coil with a built in ignitor, of which many modern coils are like this.
If the ecu cant do it, its ***** so definately look to a different ecu. Certainly all of the ecu's Ive mentioned will do it no problems at all, and they are all fairly easy to use, and keenly priced
If the ecu cant do it, its ***** so definately look to a different ecu. Certainly all of the ecu's Ive mentioned will do it no problems at all, and they are all fairly easy to use, and keenly priced
9 Second Club
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From: Norn Iron
Thats no problem. Makes no difference if its wasted spark or true COP/one spark per compression. I run mine wasted spark with 8 LS1 coils.
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From: Cecil County Raceway!!!
Apparently, controlling the stock coils is more complicated than a distributor. They all control them. The MSII uses a wasted spark method that I believe fires on both the compression and exhaust strokes. The FAST needs another module that, from what I have read, causes some sort of delay that can create issues which basically makes the FAST a non-option. Not sure if the BS3 controls the stock coils using wasted spark or if it works like the stock PCM. I know that most of the guys going over 180mph in the 1/4 are using distributors.
BS3 controls stock coils just like OEM.
still a few of us using COP...
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Newmarket, Ontario
MS can run stock coils.. Yes MS can run the stock coils, I wrote a step by step write-up specifically for the LS1 so anyone can do it. If you want, send me your e-mail and I will send it to you. I did alot of reading/looking and if you do the same you will see that MS is the way to go if you are doing it yourself....
Yes MS can run the stock coils, I wrote a step by step write-up specifically for the LS1 so anyone can do it. If you want, send me your e-mail and I will send it to you. I did alot of reading/looking and if you do the same you will see that MS is the way to go if you are doing it yourself....
Yes MS can run the stock coils, I wrote a step by step write-up specifically for the LS1 so anyone can do it. If you want, send me your e-mail and I will send it to you. I did alot of reading/looking and if you do the same you will see that MS is the way to go if you are doing it yourself....
Teching In
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guys I have a few questions...
I'm running a twin 87mm turbo set-up on my new build 427 LSX with All-Pro 6-bolt cathedral port heads, super victor, fabricated elbow, 102mm TB, 8 x 160lb Low imp injectors.
we are looking at going with the GMPP front-mount distributer drive and an MSD ignition box, not ecu controlled spark. This is really for ease of use at the track as I prefer old school, it's not a true road car but a pro-street 71 camaro.
my questions are: what fuel contoller would be best for our combination, have any of you had any experience with or know of any similar builds using the distributer drive. I was using the origional GM ECU & HP tuners with my old 346 LS1 twin-turbo set-up and found it tiresome as I'm no tech guru. I need something that will control the fuel delivery, run 8 x low imp injectors, be easy to tune, it doesn't need to control the trans and will only need to the most basic of data-logging etc. Simplicity is my main goal without going back to the dark ages and using a blow-through.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I'm running a twin 87mm turbo set-up on my new build 427 LSX with All-Pro 6-bolt cathedral port heads, super victor, fabricated elbow, 102mm TB, 8 x 160lb Low imp injectors.
we are looking at going with the GMPP front-mount distributer drive and an MSD ignition box, not ecu controlled spark. This is really for ease of use at the track as I prefer old school, it's not a true road car but a pro-street 71 camaro.
my questions are: what fuel contoller would be best for our combination, have any of you had any experience with or know of any similar builds using the distributer drive. I was using the origional GM ECU & HP tuners with my old 346 LS1 twin-turbo set-up and found it tiresome as I'm no tech guru. I need something that will control the fuel delivery, run 8 x low imp injectors, be easy to tune, it doesn't need to control the trans and will only need to the most basic of data-logging etc. Simplicity is my main goal without going back to the dark ages and using a blow-through.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
The stock ECU is a great piece but is also a bit stuborn. You dont have control over the output ranges of many of the sensors. You also have to meet several conditions in order to enter certain modes of operation. The more and more "strip" you go, you need to have a little more control. The aftermarket pieces also do away with alot of tables that aren't neccesary which pertain to emissions controls, transmission controls, and modifiers that can sticky up the works. That and they usually have more ignition and fuel delivery options.