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Old 09-22-2009, 12:33 PM
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Default Need help picking a BOV for APS car

hey guys im looking at getting a new single bov to get rid of the dual pos ones that come with the APS kit. ill be putting it right before the TB. ive been looking at the tials and turbosmart 50mm bov or if anyone has any other brands to put in to the mix thats fine to LOL ill be boosting in the 15 to 20 psi range

so give me some feed back on what you have and some pros/cons on it

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TiAL sounds sexy to me..
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I have tial 50 on my 97 talon .Its top quality not that loud I don't think.
I put twin turbosmart supersonics directly in place of the aps blow offs. They are much louder and better sounding and are not recirced.They are pricey though.

I like both Tial and turbosmart both top quality. Can't really go wrong with either one.
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I like my TurboXS RFL
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I just put the supersonics on and love the way they sound.
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i want one before the TB because i see a boost spike with the ones i have now
my eboost is hook up to the TB and as we know the eboost records peak boost
so when im doing a pull and lets say im running 10psi, when i let off the gas it spikesto 12.5 before the BOV's open. so all of the pressure is building up all the way back down to the bov,s before they open. it all so doesnt help that the vacum line has to run all that way to the BOV

i also think its a waste of money to have to buy two of them, but i might because of lack of room for my meth nozzles that are before the TB and trying to put a big 50mm BOV is going to be tight. i was thinking of putting the nozzles staight in to the TB. my IAT sensor is in the intake right after the TB

this is what im thinking guys please feel free to add ideas on this
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Hmm..I have my iat in the aps intercooler neck.I have metal tube since running 3bar and will be putting my alc nozzles in there. I dont seem to have any issues with my turbosmarts but have not been using my eboost 2 yet. I am taking vacuum from my vac manifold which gets it from back of my fast intake which is drilled and tapped for big line which runs to my vac manifold over on passenger fender. Off that I am running my blow offs, fuel pressure, hobbs switch and will be running reference line to the eboost and line to the alc injection .
Don't seem to have any problems with doing it that way.I heard some things should not share vac source but not sure how you can get around that. Maybe they mean if you have a small little vacuum line might cause a problem.

Here is a pic of my ebay vac manifold..

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i like that Al
the EB2 has to be hooked to boost only

if the BOV was by the TB it would get rid of all that vac line in the front of the car

my boost gauge is tied in to that line right now so if it has a leak i will know real fast. my hobbs switch is tied in as well cant be losing that little guy

and my phone bill was 280 this mo **** me LOL time for a new plan
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Huh..the eboost can't be taken off that vacuum manifold I have'
?..I have to look at my instructions again?? Doesn't eboost also show vacuum when not in boost?
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Not according to this..talking the eboost line to vac/boost reference. Of course the gates and turbo compressor outlets need to be run to the solenoids directly no vacuum there..

"Route the silicon hose through the engine bay and connect it to a
pressure/vacuum signal from the inlet manifold. Use the supplied
tee piece if necessary.
- Secure all connections with the supplied hose clamps."

Directly from instructions..so not following..
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i just read it it can be hooked up to vac/boost my bad bro
must of been something else
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So it don't show negative numbers..I do get manifold vacuum off my intercepter anyway so not a big deal but just thought the eboost went to negative as well.I guess I should get that think hooked up already but felt I would then be tempted to go up on boost and kill the original aps turbos before I was ready to put car away.
Tom I have free long distance anytime of day . Cost me couple bucks more than evenings and weekend plan used to have.
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it not ust calling you its alot more than that haha

so have you seen these Q type tial bovs they say the flow 60% more air that there frist 50mm
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Yep likely getting one for my 97 talon and move my older tial onto my race talon or vice versa. I like tial. I like turbosmart. Tial is still not that loud. I like my supersonics seem about perfect and looks like 1 mean agrees. They are pricey just buy one at a time then not a big deal. Simple 5 second install and sure they will work fine for you.

I have heard the turbo xs rfl have one lying around. Not quite as good quality dont' think as tial or turbosmart but the RFL lives up to its name..REAL F%CKING LOUD!
Scare little old ladies off the sidewalks with it.
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here is the new Q one i saw

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tchlink:top:en
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any more frist hands with BOVs
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what about jgs bov's? does anybody use them?
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do you mean jegs?
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Originally Posted by blue00ZZleeper
do you mean jegs?
no i dont. JGS is american made stuff
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Guy at local track was running JGS and seemed to work ok. Think gate and blow off. I like to stick to tial or turbosmart personally both top quality companies.


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