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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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I know a lot of the Incon guys replaced their stock scavenging pump with something stronger. Does anyone have a vendor, part number, or price handy?
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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Im also wondering about this...
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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i have one that i bought to try to fix oiling issues i had before, its practically brand new and allready has lines/fittings made for it to be mounted to the fan shroud ad reach to the oil pan.. i can take pics if you are interested in it.

think this model cost around 400 something new. believe it is a tilton.
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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How about http://www.tiltonracing.com. They have a distributor list on the webpage. Although I would not recommend the pump since it is junk as a turbo scavenge pump. It can be used you would just want to limit its flow rate and expect a failure every 6 months to a year (some people's don't last 3 months)

Most of the Incon owners have switched to other scavenge pumps like the Weldon 9200. You can also get the pump directly from www.flojet.com (they make the pump for tilton) for about half the cost as the tilton.

I still have the tilton pump Incon supplied and it has never seen oil. Works great as a water pump (which is what it design for)

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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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FWIW, I have had no issues with mine. 2 years now and about 10K miles.
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Anyone have the P/N for the Incon supplied pump?
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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terry just got home i have the weldon adjustable oil pump pn 9200-A i believe this is the best available, don't take my word for it though.
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has anyone run a pump like this for an independent
oiling system for a turbo?
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has anyone gotten a good place to purchase the weldon pump? and what is the P/N on the Flojet Pump... I am in the marine industry and can probably get the flojet pump VERY reasonable. please let me know if anyone can get the P/N info!

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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Terry Burger
I know a lot of the Incon guys replaced their stock scavenging pump with something stronger. Does anyone have a vendor, part number, or price handy?
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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What are tyhe specs on these pumps? very curious ad possibly interested! please post some specs on them.

thanks a bunch,
Chris
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Hoerr Racing Products (HRP) in peoria Illinois handles alot of tilton products, very good customer service. www.hrpworld.com
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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The tilton Incon used is P/N 17-253 which is a diaphragm pump rated at 1 to 2 gpm maximum temperature 265 deg, 12 volt 8 amp. Its not designed for continous duty cycle i.e. designed to be run all the time. It the based off the flojet pump 2100 series with slightly different fittings.

http://www.flojet.com/prodInfoApp/se...U&typeId=FR210

Pump was originally designed as shower drain, general purpose motorhome pump. All the internals on the pump are the same. Pump is cheap to rebuild, the diaphragm cost about $16 and check valve assembly about the same, these are the only thing that should fail.

The major problem is that the gt2535 turbos only require about 1 gallon/min oil flow maximum. The way Incon has the pump setup its will flow around 2 gallons/min. which means most of the time the pump is dry. The pump can run dry but it will reduce the useful life. Most people think that the oil scavenge reserviors Incon were used because the pump could not keep up with the oil demand. Infact, for proper operation you should fill the oil scavenge tanks and oil lines to the pump full of oil, this would somewhat help the pump run longer. The best way to use this pump would be to restrict the oulet so the pump does not run dry.

The weldon 9200 which I use, is rated at 1 gpm maximum and a variable vane pump. Variable vane pump can run dry for short periods of time like a diaphragm but are rated for much longer life. They cost a lot more, but I would rather not kill my motor and turbo(s) with a cheap pump.

Hope that helps

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Originally Posted by red ws6 99
The major problem is that the gt2535 turbos only require about 1 gallon/min oil flow maximum. The way Incon has the pump setup its will flow around 2 gallons/min. which means most of the time the pump is dry.
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So if I have two GT35's, would the single weldon pump be enough support them? It sounds like I would need a 2 gpm weldon (or two scavenge pumps) for a twin setup. This is definitely good info, thanks.

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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by White_Hawk
So if I have two GT35's, would the single weldon pump be enough support them? It sounds like I would need a 2 gpm weldon (or two scavenge pumps) for a twin setup. This is definitely good info, thanks.

-Geoff
The two gt2535 require about 1 gpm total (Limit engineering could probably get an exact value) since I just calculated the value, so one weldon works fine. I and many others have the weldon. I also do not use scavenge tanks, not really much need (but leave them if you have them).

I crunched the numbers a few years ago, before I recommended the weldon to many people. I actually recommended it long before I had my modified Incon setup up and running.

The output rate of the weldon can be adjusted by adjusting the head. Which adjusts the distance between the vane and pump housing. I have mine set at maximum flow, but several people have stated that 3/4 of maximum will also work. I have no oil issues, but I don't have a heck of lot of miles on the car, maybe 4000.

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Thanks for the info, I just got my turbo's back from limit so I will give Mr John Craig a call Monday.

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I have a brand new Tilton pump in the box from an Incon TT kit. It is forsale.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lcvette
What are tyhe specs on these pumps? very curious ad possibly interested! please post some specs on them.

thanks a bunch,
Chris
These have a flow rate of 5 lpm (1.3 gal/min). They are capable of handling oil temps up to 350f Max.

-Jason
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Originally Posted by jpas
These have a flow rate of 5 lpm (1.3 gal/min). They are capable of handling oil temps up to 350f Max.

-Jason

how about the run dry issue?
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