MY99TAWS6

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Well I live in a typical size city about couple hundred thousand people. In the old days like thirty years ago when I was like 20..yes I am 52 now we could have some fun in town with our cars. We could race from light to light. Speed thru town and the fines were so small it was a joke and most times the police just told us to go home. We went out of town a few miles and had 1/4 mile marked. No problems. Then times changed, Fast and stupid furious movies came out, Ricers did their stupid going 100mph down main street and other dumb things. People died, pedestrians died,young high school kids thinking they were hot **** in their hondas died.Laws got way tougher.Speeding up here is now about same as baby killing .They have strict street racing laws,impound,huge fines,jail time.
They have red light cameras,green light cameras in some cities too, photoradar,lots and lots of ghost chargers and lots of regular police on traffic duty with no mercy attitudes.
So really when can your average city guy in this day and age put their cars into this boost all the time. To make boost you generally have to put the pedal down. And when the boost comes on you go pretty fast usually! Like instant go to jail fast in a 500 plus rwhp car.
So really most of the time I am hardly ever in boost around town, a few pounds hit here and there , a bit of playing in industrial areas but that is even going to sooner or later get me in big trouble almost had my luck run out last year.

So having a car that is reall nice and torquey and has power off boost is also a good thing. YMMV!

Anyway a 5.3 is still a v8 and won't be that bad for turbo lag or that torqueless.

And really I still enjoy driving my little 2.0 and 2.4 talons too and maybe cause it is so very impressive to go from like 150 hp off boost to 600 on. And it is kinda cool to rev the little lawnmower engines to 8500 in a blink of an eye.

And on race track then don't matter as much if the car is torqueless or gutless at lower rpms. You leave at high rpm and use two steps and antilags or two steps and good stall on the auto and you have good boost and power
off the line.

Anyway sorry about the ranting. And you can of course go very fast with just about any size engine with enough boost going thru it.

ninetres

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:facepalm:

Lag should never be used as a replacement for properly set up suspension. And light cars will spin less, as they are easier to move forward.

lq4powereds13

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Never said that i would be using it as a replacement for properly set up suspension. Now that i re-read my post it wasn't the smartest thing to say. But any info on which cam to go with?

skinnies

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For the prices of the 5.3's(at least around here) you can't beat them for 550rwhp, just add a cam/springs/pushrods and go. 145k miles on my last 5.3, taking a beating like no other with well over 600rwhp when it was in my buddies car. No rod bolts, no head studs, and stock 5.3 heads. I just picked up two more 5.3's and after selling off the my old one and the extra parts on the new ones I got that I don't need I'll have less than $100 in both motors, it's hard to beat that.

As far as the pistons being weak, it's ALL IN THE TUNEUP. I just tore mine down after I had a cheap stall converter balloon and kill the thurst bearing. The pistons/rings/rods, and rod bearings looked PERFECT. If you have a junk tune(espcially on crap gas)then yes you are going to break parts, even good parts.

ninetres

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I am a fan of reverse splits for turbo cars. I'm about to watch a movie so I can;t compare specs of the ones you asked about. I would have Shawn at VA speed get you a cam. He seems to know his **** with turbo LS platforms. He offers some nice ones off the shelf, or cam custom grind you one.

pwrtrip75

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Why not?? I have a 4-link chassis car and when I had a higher stall I had little to no lag.... Unleashing 600+ whp on the street all at once wasnt that practical.. Different converter and I had a bit more lag...nothing drastic but it helped a lot. I think my best 60ft at the track spraying a 50 shot was 1.55 , on the street it worked pretty damn good.


Off boost my 5.3 is a dog....about as quick as my 96 tahoe.


And what I was refering to as a 5.3 being stronger than a 6.0 was the top surface of the piston... the smaller area will have more structural integrity than a larger one.... how much?? who knows? Enough to matter?? maybe not... but it is what it is.

ninetres

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I wouldnt brag about a turbo/nitrous LS car running 1.55 60's. Good suspension should handle that. And I am not talking about "unleashing 600hp" on the street as thats not a good idea no matter how great your suspension set up is.

And you shouldn't need extra "lag" to get your 600 HP car to hook. Good suspension should handle that. If lag was a good answer for spinning out of the hole what do you think people with 900rwhp do? Add even more lag!?!?!! No.

slow67

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There is a local turbo car here that has put down 1200rwhp, and hooks VERY well on the street. Knee high wheelies coming of the TB.

pwrtrip75

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Right... its horrible....thats my point. I find it difficult to cut like a 1.3 on an unprepped city street.... never had the need to. Its got 29.5 tires and 3.50 gears... lol. That and some lag....the 1.55 is actually asking a lot out of a mostly stock 5.3 @ 3660 lbs

ninetres

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One a very well prepped road I'm sure. I never said it isn't do-able......I said it just isn;t a good idea, for safety concerns. Going WOT on public roads with 600+hp, let alone 1200hp, cars is just not a great idea. The rate of accelleration puts you at real high speeds in just a few seconds. Add in a spool that a lot of these cars have and you have an issue with staying straight due to the crowns in the road.

pwrtrip75

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Now if you had a little lag that would correct your problem. I can run mine on any unprepped road...and it runs almost the same as the track.. It hazes the tires a bit when shifting though. Would I rather have lag and control....or a worthless car with power that I cant even get on it on the street?? Hmmmm.... tough one to call for a daily driver street car.

lq4powereds13

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Thanks ill check them out.

nasty_ss

guys on here will say "bigger is better" and it's true if you plan on replacing internals. i noticed you chose to go with the 5.3. good choice if you don't plan on replacing internals immediately. 5.3L have dished pistons already. lower compression is always better for boost. i'm sure you'll find people on here saying you can build a boost motor on 10:1 cr and they're not wrong, but most normal people can't afford to build it that way.

505OUTLAWZWS6

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This thread can give you a headache. The man asked about 5.3 vs 6.0 stock. Not a ******* 408. If you plan to just keep swaping stock motors with minor upgrades i would go with a 5.3. 5.3 dish pistons with 317 heads and you can run way more boost safely and make more power than the 6.0. Now this is STOCK internals vs stock internals.