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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Not sure what to get, leaning towards 2300 but sure it is the best one for my build. First this is not a drag car or daily driver. It is in a 71 camaro and only goes out on nice summer days. I do like long drives, did the hot rod power tour last year with it but most driving is weekends only.

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2300!!!
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4000!!!
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so the idea here being bigger is always better??
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any other opinions?
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There's little if anything that a 1900 will do better than a 2300. I think the price difference is about $600. If you ever decide to get rid of the 2300, it well sell quick and easy.....and you'll get your $600 back +.

A used 1900 might be a bargain though. I've seen them go for under $4K.
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Why not run a 2600?
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what exactly are yall talking about? stalls?
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what exactly are yall talking about? stalls?
not sure who you or what you are asking?
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We used a 2300 on this build, and I wouldn't go with anything smaller.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=56 Bob
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Originally Posted by EPP Automotive Performance
We used a 2300 on this build, and I wouldn't go with anything smaller.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=56 Bob
nice build! I noticed you went with 9.3:1 CP I am looking at 10 to 10.5:1 but it is not a daily driver for me, do you think that might be a bit high?
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Originally Posted by edge04
nice build! I noticed you went with 9.3:1 CP I am looking at 10 to 10.5:1 but it is not a daily driver for me, do you think that might be a bit high?
Thanks, your compression ratio will be just fine. In reality we should of gone a little higher with the compression ratio as it would of been easier to make power. Bob
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Originally Posted by Fondle
what exactly are yall talking about? stalls?
X2.....I have no idea... HAHA... I just started naming random numbers. I wish I had a crytal ball. Awesome thread.
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Originally Posted by EPP Automotive Performance
Thanks, your compression ratio will be just fine. In reality we should of gone a little higher with the compression ratio as it would of been easier to make power. Bob
Were you running a 8 rib or 10 rib? I saw you originally had some boost issues, were those eventually resolved?

I would think 8 rib should be fine if I want to be around 10-11lbs boost???
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Are you kidding?

Roots is stupid.

Go turbo or twinscrew.
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Originally Posted by cracker
Are you kidding?

Roots is stupid.

Go turbo or twinscrew.
reasons why I am sticking with the MAG but I will consider your rec on my next build

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Originally Posted by edge04
any other opinions?
I have both and it depends on your power level......600+ rwhp I would choose 2300 and 8 rib otherwise 1900 and 6 rib

don't buy MTI's bs I ran their 720 rwhp 1900 setup and got 652
2300 same pulleys 712
2300 at 650 had notably higher iat than 1900 at 650

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Originally Posted by backchannel
I have both and it depends on your power level......600+ rwhp I would choose 2300 and 8 rib otherwise 1900 and 6 rib

don't buy MTI's bs I ran their 720 rwhp 1900 setup and got 652
2300 same pulleys 712
2300 at 650 had notably higher iat than 1900 at 650
the 2300 had a higher IAT?

Well here is the thing. My ECM is a MEFI 4B, anyone familiar with those. It is an open loop system using a speed density calibration or I can run it in closed loop using narrow or wideband O2 sensors. So no MAF or IAT sensors. Will I get a proper tune with this?
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Originally Posted by edge04
the 2300 had a higher IAT?

Well here is the thing. My ECM is a MEFI 4B, anyone familiar with those. It is an open loop system using a speed density calibration or I can run it in closed loop using narrow or wideband O2 sensors. So no MAF or IAT sensors. Will I get a proper tune with this?
yes the 2300 was hotter at the same power level - 'supersub' has a good fix
the longer you run in high boost, the higher the iat climbs-not linear but it does get hotter.
not sure how you could tune between a short run and a long run without iat spark table other than less timing than ideal. I expect to add meth pre rotors and intercooler and will see if that stabilizes iat.
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Originally Posted by backchannel
yes the 2300 was hotter at the same power level - 'supersub' has a good fix
the longer you run in high boost, the higher the iat climbs-not linear but it does get hotter.
not sure how you could tune between a short run and a long run without iat spark table other than less timing than ideal. I expect to add meth pre rotors and intercooler and will see if that stabilizes iat.
What's up with the higher IAT's on the bigger blower at similar boost levels? Is the intercooler/heat exchanger not sized right on the 2300? What does the "fix" involve?
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