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Old 04-14-2010, 08:00 AM
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I just wanted to see what all the stock bottom end guys are running. I feel my AFR should be richer than 12.5. Any info woudl help!

PSI=?
Timing=?
Octane=?
AFR=?
HP=?
Turbo or SC=?
Stock Head Gasket=?
Head Studs or Bolts=?
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What boost are you making? Depending on the amount of boost and the timing your running Wons are the weak link if going for more.OT AFR should be mid to low 11's. A stock 346 can make 500 plus force fed if the tune is spot on w/out much worry but the stock rod bolts & pist
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AFR should be at 11.5 in boost.....I run a bit leaner from 1-3 psi
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i am at 15psi 14*. But my afr is 12.5. I thinks its to lean. I wanted to see what everyone else was running on theirs.
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Originally Posted by dreamls1
i am at 15psi 14*. But my afr is 12.5. I thinks its to lean. I wanted to see what everyone else was running on theirs.
That is WAY to lean....12.5 AFR is for NA motors
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Originally Posted by AFASTYZFR1
That is WAY to lean....12.5 AFR is for NA motors
I know just think what it was in 3rd gear. i bet 13-14afr when the gasket poped.
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Originally Posted by dreamls1
I know just think what it was in 3rd gear. i bet 13-14afr when the gasket poped.


You pulled on a stock bottom end with afr that lean

Your motor is going to explode soon if it hasn't already
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Originally Posted by AFASTYZFR1


You pulled on a stock bottom end with afr that lean

Your motor is going to explode soon if it hasn't already
haha no crap!

We all thought we where in 3rd gear when it was tuned but the shifter ended up being off a little and we where in 2nd gear. I would not have run the car if the afr was that high!!! I just hope i got lucky and blew a gasket and not something else!
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think its safe to say the tune was off just a little bit.
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We tuned mine way rich to be safe. It's stock top to bottom

AFR was 10.3
Boost 10.5 #s
Fuel E85

Made 500 rwhp through an auto and a 12 bolt. Prolly coulda made a little more by leaning it out, but better safe than sorry. Hopefully have a new motor soon anyway.
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Was that with pump gas or race gas?
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I was wrong, on our last run he added 6% of fuel that gave me 11.8 afr. I was on 93 pump gas.

I guess cylinder pressure could have blew the gasket out?
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PSI= ~8lbs on the gauge
Timing= I'm Sorry i don't remember the exact number, i know it wasn't crazy, tried to keep it safe.
Octane= 93 pump gas
AFR= ~11.0 WOT according to my wideband gauge
HP= 595
Turbo or SC= Procharger D1
Stock Head Gasket= Yes, GM MLS
Head Studs or Bolts= Bolts (not even ARP)

I had the tuner keep it rich and used 317 heads to drop compression a bit, trying to be "safe"
I used the EPP cam, so I used the Patriot Gold dual valvesprings (.650 lift) in the heads.
Heads are untouched other than the spring kit.

Stock bottom end has held up so far, i also don't beat the crap out of the car, and i have only been to the track a few times.

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My car is about to get tuned at Force Fed performance in Sacramento CA ,....Im kind of on the same boat wanting to see if theirs something I should know before i get tuned or what questions i should ask ?....

I have the stock 346 just patriot valves, springs, pushrods kit, walbro pump 255, 42 lbs injectors they have a mustang dyno,,,,, sorry if im off topic....

what should my afr be?
what should my timing be ?
what is a speed density 2bar tune ?



PSI= ------------------- 8
Timing=-----------------?
Octane=----------------91, its the only one we have in california
AFR=-------------------??
HP=--------------------???
Turbo or SC=-----------t60 .96 a/r
Stock Head Gasket=----stock
Head Studs or Bolts=---stock
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PSI=8
Timing=16*
Octane=90
AFR=12ish in boost, mid 14s N/A
HP=485 through stock clutch
Turbo or SC=Turbo - Mp T70
Stock Head Gasket=GM MLS
Head Studs or Bolts= GM TTY
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dcvingv6 you ever take your car to the track?
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stock ls2 11psi on e85/meth, 18degs 11.0-12.0 afr, procharger F1 blower (waste gated) threw stock A4 501 mustang dyno
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PSI=17
Timing=16*
Octane=93
AFR=10.4
HP=559 at 10 psi
Turbo or SC=Turbo - Worn out pt67
Stock Head Gasket=GM MLS
Head Studs or Bolts= Apr head studs and rod bolts

Went 10.4 at 132 with 6 speed and 12 psi with 1.48 60 foot.
Went 10.4 at 128 with Built th400 3200 stall with 12 psi with 1.40 60 foot.

Ran 17 psi for a while and it ran awesome, it never blew up so I got bored and got a built 408 and pt88 which is almost finished now... Videos here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUYjc8fWPYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peaqMexuAHE
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Current setup in my rx7, L33 5.3...

PSI=18
Timing=14
Octane=e85
AFR=11.5
HP=686 (thru the auto)
Turbo or SC=? TC78 turbo
Stock Head Gasket=? ls9 gaskets
Head Studs or Bolts= head studs

Also had this combo before in my car and maxxmitchell's car, LM7 5.3...

PSI=11
Timing=20
Octane=e85
AFR=11.5
HP=560rwhp range through an auto at 11lbs
Turbo or SC=? TC78 turbo
Stock Head Gasket=? stock
Head Studs or Bolts= stock

When it was in maxx's car he ran 14.5lbs and 26 degrees timing, never pushed coolant on him. It finally pushed coolant on me at 13lbs and 20 degrees timing, but I think it was due to a tune change and missed something, got lean on us. Motor is still together and is my spare motor, after it pushed coolant I drove it another 1000 miles.
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wow this came back from the dead!! i am already onto another build



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