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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 05:30 AM
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I've searched on here and i'm trying to figure out what's the best setup for a built lsx 427. The lsx build will consist of a drangon slayer crank, callies rods, diamond pistons with coated skirts set .300 down. The setup is going in a GMC Syclone and will be awd also with a built 4l80e behind it. So right now I have a brand new dbb 88mm turbo with a t4 housing. Is the 88 to big to small? I've tried to research and for the 427 what's better a single turbo kit or a twin turbo kit? The truck will be mainly a street car with the occasional pass down the track.

If a single turbo kits is good what size? Is the 88 to small?

If a twin kit is the best idea what size twins? 67? 35rs?
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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Sized properly both can work well. Most times a single packages better, but two "just look right" in my eyes!

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how much power are you looking to make and at what rpm range?

What else exactly is in the engine-type of heads intake manifold etc.
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a T4 88mm turbo is too small for 427ci.

I would do a 98-106mm single with a T6 1.32 housing or 2 76-80mm with small T4 exh a/r

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+1 I'd say 91mm+
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Shawn,
I'm probably going to run the trick flow gen x heads a far as an intake manifold I'm not sure yet. Rpm range an power wise I'm not sure. I want it to be a fun street truck. I know I want to atleats be in the 700-900 range I'm thinking that's pretty realistic. Correct?

A single setup would def be cheaper to build but will a twin setup be better for the street? Is a 91mm pro billet set a good choice for a single?
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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Single is better for the street
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Shawn,
I'm probably going to run the trick flow gen x heads a far as an intake manifold I'm not sure yet. Rpm range an power wise I'm not sure. I want it to be a fun street truck. I know I want to atleats be in the 700-900 range I'm thinking that's pretty realistic. Correct?

A single setup would def be cheaper to build but will a twin setup be better for the street? Is a 91mm pro billet set a good choice for a single?
Against popular belief,a pair of small twins are the most fun on the street.They spool incredibly fast and still make alot of power.We built a 427 with a pair of 59mm turbos(due to packaging constaints) at made over 800rwhp thru an auto on pump gas.Car had amazing throttle response and spool instantly.The down size to twin turbo setups is cost-you have to buy to turbos and wastegates,but they are usually alot cheaper due to the size.

A 91mm single would be fine with the proper exhaust housing,most people like to over turbo motors for some reason.I would rather run a small turbo that make alot of low end power-i think the philosophy is instead of figuring out how to make the engine more efficient-just add more boost.
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Shawn,

what size turbo would be perfect for a single setup? Turbo and exhaust housing would u recommend.
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twin's may be more "fun" on the street if getting loose is the game (gobs of instant torque). But if you want to win races, I'd recommend a single. The 427 will be plenty torquey on it's own all ready. a little lag and a good boost controller will make it more manageable on the street. Honestly though, you'll probably have big traction problems regardless with that many cubes and a turbo.
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You do agree though that the 88dbb with the t4 housing is to small? Or would the 88 being smaller make for a quicker spool and good response on the street?
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You do agree though that the 88dbb with the t4 housing is to small? Or would the 88 being smaller make for a quicker spool and good response on the street?
The T4 exhaust housing is too small for your motor. One of the biggest problems with running a bigger T6 turbo is that it will likely have a 5" downpipe. That's not easy to got out of your engine compartments which means that you will either have to kneck it down, Run motor plates or stick it out the fender. That's why the larger ci motors usually wear twins. The smaller twins are generally easier to package and get 2 smaller diameter dp's out.

But here is the million dollar question, why 427 ci for a street truck?
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
twin's may be more "fun" on the street if getting loose is the game (gobs of instant torque). But if you want to win races, I'd recommend a single. The 427 will be plenty torquey on it's own all ready. a little lag and a good boost controller will make it more manageable on the street. Honestly though, you'll probably have big traction problems regardless with that many cubes and a turbo.
power management-it's always better to have too much power and cut it back than not having enough.
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Originally Posted by syclone2882
You do agree though that the 88dbb with the t4 housing is to small? Or would the 88 being smaller make for a quicker spool and good response on the street?
for a single-a 91mm with a t6 1.0 ar turbine housing.This will make for quick spoolup while still making great top end power.The t4 flange is too small for that cubic inch
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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Do i see a pissing contest between Shawn @ va. Speed an 98Z8CobaKILLER??? lol
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Why a 427? Bc for me it was the sane price to build a 427 as it was to build a 408 or 416. And I def wanted to run the lsx block over the lq9 bc for the piece of mind that no matter what setup I put in it I had enough bottom end to cover it.

So either one 91mm or twin 67s or 70s. Would that be the general opinion?
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I was thinking twin 72s or 76s.
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Originally Posted by redfirebird
Do i see a pissing contest between Shawn @ va. Speed an 98Z8CobaKILLER??? lol
nope,just a difference in opinion.
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Originally Posted by syclone2882
Why a 427? Bc for me it was the sane price to build a 427 as it was to build a 408 or 416. And I def wanted to run the lsx block over the lq9 bc for the piece of mind that no matter what setup I put in it I had enough bottom end to cover it.

So either one 91mm or twin 67s or 70s. Would that be the general opinion?
67's or 70s-jesus,you want to make 1800hp? a paor of 62's will make well over 1000rwhp.We are working on a project right now with another shop-2010 Camaro with a 427 and twin 62's,will make over 1000rwhp on pump gas.
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Originally Posted by redfirebird
Do i see a pissing contest between Shawn @ va. Speed an 98Z8CobaKILLER??? lol
Nah. Just two guys with experience putting their opinions out there. Their opinions differ but in the end they both make power.
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