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Old May 2, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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I have only started reading through the FI threads this week and was wondering if it is possible to have 625rwhp, great drivability, and over 20mpg with a mild cam, 317s and TC76 .81. I saw some 750rwhp builds but would rather have less lag and better drivability than crazy numbers. Using the search it seems after fuel, and all turbo parts it should cost about $5000-5500 for everything, does that seem correct? (Would either do ebay hot side kit or custom pipes with truck manifolds myself)

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Old May 2, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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You can pretty much just throw a turbo on the stock motor and meet that goal without loosing any driveability at all. It'll drive like stock until you get into boost.
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Old May 2, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Really? How much boost do you think it would take for an increase of 300rwhp?
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Old May 2, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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My car has GREAT drive-ability but it took a lot of work and will require a lot of tuning to get it right
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i doubt the stock bottom end would hold up at 650 rwhp. AS a general rule every 1psi is usally worth around 30-40 hp on an fbody to depending on how big you go. i would guess you would need around 8 psi though. it seems that 500 rwhp is about the highest you could go without any reliability issues though on an otherwise stock engine. Also i think it will cost you a little more than 5000$ maybe say 6000 or 7000 unless you can do a lot of the work yourself or find a good deal on a used kit. you have to remember if your a4 your gonna need a new trans and if your m6 like me you need a serious clutch. on another note though boosted cars are awesome. thats my next project
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Old May 2, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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625 is very doable but not for that much cash. you can look at my sig i put 10K miles on a stock bottom end at this power level
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Old May 2, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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It is very easy to make 625 rwhp and drive like stock. With the auto it would be leaning on the stock motor quite a bit. Put a set of rods in pistons in that motor and you will have a reliable car that will meet your goals.

If its front mounted I would do the .96 a/r on the turbo
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i doubt the stock bottom end would hold up at 650 rwhp. AS a general rule every 1psi is usally worth around 30-40 hp on an fbody to depending on how big you go. i would guess you would need around 8 psi though. it seems that 500 rwhp is about the highest you could go without any reliability issues though on an otherwise stock engine. Also i think it will cost you a little more than 5000$ maybe say 6000 or 7000 unless you can do a lot of the work yourself or find a good deal on a used kit. you have to remember if your a4 your gonna need a new trans and if your m6 like me you need a serious clutch. on another note though boosted cars are awesome. thats my next project
Already have a trans that could take about 750rwhp, I would definately consider forged pistons and rods with arp bolts if I do this though. Would try to do everything myself also, looks like fun reading through the build threads.
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Originally Posted by black98ws6ta
It is very easy to make 625 rwhp and drive like stock. With the auto it would be leaning on the stock motor quite a bit. Put a set of rods in pistons in that motor and you will have a reliable car that will meet your goals.

If its front mounted I would do the .96 a/r on the turbo
Would a .96 a/r have a lot of lag though?
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No about the lag

Drivability is all gonna be based around the cam, a ls6 cam would drive like stock and work well. The only different's between 650rwhp and 750rwhp with a tc76 is a few more psi.
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Originally Posted by Sluggish
No about the lag

Drivability is all gonna be based around the cam, a ls6 cam would drive like stock and work well. The only different's between 650rwhp and 750rwhp with a tc76 is a few more psi.
agreed, my tc76 .96ar has no lag. and coming from a heads/cam setup to this setup with an ls6 cam it feels like a stock car until you get into boost. 650-700 hp is just a few more pounds (and a new shortblock) away
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Old May 2, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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I have a thunder racing cam in mine, 227/224, .570"/.563" 114 lsa, valve springs and ls6 intake...and I think my car is very streetable...with the turbo and exhaust I have on the car you can't really tell it has a cam in it. Also, the auto really made it nice to drive.
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<<< Very streetable!!
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Old May 2, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Absolutely. On a stock bottom end it's a little trickier, esp with an auto. I wouldn't worry about rwhp though - my setup got 23mpg on a day long cruise last fall when it had the 6 speed in it and made about 10rwhp less than you're wanting. Mines a built bottom end, lingenfelter gt7 cam, stock heads, stock ls1 intake and 15psi from a lil dinker T70 turbo. Never got a good pass out of it at the track, but pulled a 128mph car about a car length on the highway in this full weight car. With the 4l80 I'm guessing about 75-100 less wheel hp but a much more usable and fun powerband on the street and track (autos = always in boost under WOT)
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Old May 2, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Thanks for replies, definately thinking about doing it in a year or so.
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