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Old 05-16-2010, 07:54 AM
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ok guys i have a couple questions for a friend of mine that is thinking about going this route with his malibu. he has an lq9 motor ready and waiting. here is the plan he wants to make whatever it takes at the wheels to go mid 9's and close to 145mph in the 1/4 on pump gas. he is planning on piston/rod upgrade, max ported 317 heads, custom ground turbo cam, victor carbed intake, c&s carb, ptc convertor with either a th350 or th400. headers and turbo are still up in the air as not sure what size to tell him to go with, i was thinking an s480 or so. this biggest thing is he is wanting to do this all on pump gas so i need to know what it will take to do it. should we try to keep the compression low at like 9.0 or go closer to 10.0? im thinking he will be limited to around 10-12psi on pump gas. is it possible to just leave the bottom end stock with just a bolt upgrade and stock cubes and go this fast at that weight? really jusst looking for guidance to tell him which way to go to do all this on pump gas and possible stock cubes. thanks for the help guys
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Malibu.s are not that heavy so ,700_800rwhp with a good suspension set up will get him there. There have been some to push the stock lq9 to 800 hp but the tune was spot on and meth was used. I would go ahead and do the rods and pistons, the crank is fine for the hp goal. As far as carbs hell i cant tell u lol.
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It is possible but not likely to get in the 9's on pump. With meth it would make it in the nines. But in your case I also would have someone else build the car so it stays together:]
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You dont need meth to go nines......... It can be done on the pump. If the car can cut a fast short time it will do it. There some who run nines with 650 hp its all in the proper set up of the car.
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lol darooke how is the having someone else build your **** working out for you. as for meth im not opposed to doing it as i have it on my car as well. i guess he is mostly looking to get to a 142-145mph and then working on the suspension to get his et faster and faster.
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWZ RACING
You dont need meth to go nines......... It can be done on the pump. If the car can cut a fast short time it will do it. There some who run nines with 650 hp its all in the proper set up of the car.
yes, a handful of people have done it thats why i said not likely. I have never seen it in person just internet chatter. Have you run at the track yet outlaw?

as for you underfunded. We shall see.
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ok talked to the owner that wants to do this and advised him that it might be easier to go with fuel injection, meth for more boost and XFI...are the goals doable now with that setup?
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You can put 15 psi to that bottom end, no problem on pump gas. Just gotta back the timing way off and keep the RPM's down (try to stay under 6500) by gearing accordingly. He will have plenty of torque as long as all the electronics are setup correctly and he can get some boost out of the hole. Definetly would recommend using some sort of fuel injection. I've heard that the whole blow thru thing is a huge PITA.
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Blow Thru is not bad at all. At Idle and WOT it is all good. Its everything in between that sucks. Just depends on what you want to do with the car.
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Originally Posted by Josh@KY-Turbo
Blow Thru is not bad at all. At Idle and WOT it is all good. Its everything in between that sucks. Just depends on what you want to do with the car.


Sounds like a good race only option .
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller


Sounds like a good race only option .
Thats the only Blow Thru Carb experience I have .
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im working on my lq9 d1sc blowthru right now, ive got a c&s carb also. im also going to be spraying meth, i have a few things left before she fires so i cant tell you yet how good/bad it runs.
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Are you plannng to include an intercooler in the mix?
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me? no im not.
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is tuning meth with a carb a pita? I would think so.
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cant tell you yet. i dont think it should be to bad/different. but ask me again once i start my engine and tuning.
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Originally Posted by darooke
yes, a handful of people have done it thats why i said not likely. I have never seen it in person just internet chatter. Have you run at the track yet outlaw?

as for you underfunded. We shall see.
10.38 142 1 pass with the new found power that year. no cage no slicks, wasted 30 bucks to whoop a mustangs *** on a 10 bolt
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWZ RACING
10.38 142 1 pass with the new found power that year. no cage no slicks, wasted 30 bucks to whoop a mustangs *** on a 10 bolt
Nice mph. I am going to search for your build.
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Oh mine was a custom rearmount. I never did a build thread on it..

But the list was.

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vic jr, epp cam, intake elbows,patriot stg3 heads, meth injection, GTS 76 mm turbo, 60 Pound injectors, custom fuel system, tuned at LP 14 psi 760 18 813
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