View Poll Results: how much rwhp is too much to be fun on the street?
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what rwhp/rwtq is to much for the street? when is it not fun any more?
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my car is running about 13lbs of boost no dyno numbers but it is prob close to 750 rwhp. It isn't really that fun to drive on the street anymore. Goes through tires like crazy, Can't stop them from spinning, when the turbo spools you better be ready and in a straight line or your in for big trouble. It also idles a bit high for my liking but I can't drop it down below 850rpm with the 80lb injectors. and the cam is stinky too. And I can't even listen to the radio the car is so loud. Lets not talk about the fuel mileage. ahaha.... I d say I ruined my daily driver.... I would say 5-6oo is nice it would be nicer to have a more progressive build too, that may make it better.
Anyway this is just my opinion.
I think once you are beating bikes.... No need to have anymore power.
Anyway this is just my opinion.
I think once you are beating bikes.... No need to have anymore power.
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my car is running about 13lbs of boost no dyno numbers but it is prob close to 750 rwhp. It isn't really that fun to drive on the street anymore. Goes through tires like crazy, Can't stop them from spinning, when the turbo spools you better be ready and in a straight line or your in for big trouble. It also idles a bit high for my liking but I can't drop it down below 850rpm with the 80lb injectors. and the cam is stinky too. And I can't even listen to the radio the car is so loud. Lets not talk about the fuel mileage. ahaha.... I d say I ruined my daily driver.... I would say 5-6oo is nice it would be nicer to have a more progressive build too, that may make it better.
Anyway this is just my opinion.
I think once you are beating bikes.... No need to have anymore power.
Anyway this is just my opinion.
I think once you are beating bikes.... No need to have anymore power.
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But we just decided how retarded it was to spend that much money when you're not quite a rich fella......but damn, it would have been fun.
You have one of his set-ups?
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I've talked with Tom many times about doing a TT set-up. Me and my stepfather almost made the move about a year ago....would have had a 2,300 HP TT 454ci SBC in my WS6.......hahahahaha The same one Nelson Witlock has from NRE and the one thats in his video on the dyno.
That is a killer engine combo you and your stepfather were looking at. Crazy power. That would be one heck of a setup for you someday.
But we just decided how retarded it was to spend that much money when you're not quite a rich fella......but damn, it would have been fun.
You have one of his set-ups?
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That is a killer engine combo you and your stepfather were looking at. Crazy power. That would be one heck of a setup for you someday.
But we just decided how retarded it was to spend that much money when you're not quite a rich fella......but damn, it would have been fun.
You have one of his set-ups?
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I was lucky enough to get Tom to do this combo a few years back and put it in a 1968 Firebird with a stick. These were the 91 octane runs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvlbWPCG1E
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Thats awesome i am going to build a turbo kit for my 540 BBC going in my 70 chevelle
Your WS6 looks like a really nice combo with that LPE 427. Those are some really good numbers.
I was lucky enough to get Tom to do this combo a few years back and put it in a 1968 Firebird with a stick. These were the 91 octane runs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvlbWPCG1E
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I was lucky enough to get Tom to do this combo a few years back and put it in a 1968 Firebird with a stick. These were the 91 octane runs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvlbWPCG1E
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I disagree! My procharger car hits very hard and just blows the tires off up to about 70mph, and I'm only 700rwhp. With my turbo car (about the same power level) didn't hit as hard came on a little easier. And it didn't have much lag. So on the street my turbo car is easier to drive.
And my response to the OP. Mine are fun but not real usable! Fun yes, usable no!
And my response to the OP. Mine are fun but not real usable! Fun yes, usable no!
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700-800 vote here because that's where I'm at. My 2.75 rear gears help me hook up on the street where most of my driving is, but hurt me some at the track if it's prepped decent. The car will often get loose under 100mph but it's controllable. Our streets in Vegas are very oily due to the lack of rain. Tires are 28" tall 275 MT Drag Radials.
There are a lot of factors involved on how much power is streetable. On my setup I feel I'm at the upper end of what I'm comfortable with on the street. I don't like to fight a car.
Anyone that voted 1500+ is most likely someone who hasn't even experienced 700+ on the street.
There are a lot of factors involved on how much power is streetable. On my setup I feel I'm at the upper end of what I'm comfortable with on the street. I don't like to fight a car.
Anyone that voted 1500+ is most likely someone who hasn't even experienced 700+ on the street.
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I must have missed what you are looking to do with the car on the street. if you are building a dig car then you need a different hp/tq level then if you were building a highway cruiser or a 60 -160 pull type of car.
i would say if you are looking for a highway cruiser/ highway pull sort of car then your right foot is the only thing keeping you from having all the power you want. proper suspension, tire and boost deleivery can go a long way to helping you out with putting it down.
but just stomping on the long pedal is going to cause your rear to light up.
i would say if you are looking for a highway cruiser/ highway pull sort of car then your right foot is the only thing keeping you from having all the power you want. proper suspension, tire and boost deleivery can go a long way to helping you out with putting it down.
but just stomping on the long pedal is going to cause your rear to light up.
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nitrous, turbo and blower power are all different. I have had about 600 hp of each of the power adders and they all come on and feel different. So if you are building a dig car then you might need a different type hp/tq power adder then if you were building a highway cruiser or a 60 -160 pull type of car. My N20 car was good from a dig cause u could make power come in any way u wanted it to. But when the bottle was off it was not as much fun to drive as the blower car that had all that instant power and tq. The turbo car was softer from a dig than the blower car but could not dial in the power like that of the nitrous car and did not have the instant power of a blower.
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I make right at 700 on the tire with my bbc truck, its just to the point its still fun but it can get really hairy in some cases, It really sucks when you have a cam/spray TA stump a mud hole in your *** with 250-200rwhp less then you, he dead hooks, gets out on you then you panic and smash it and all you do is kill a few mosquito from tire smoke
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Yeah, but its old and tired.........runs great still, but needs a rebuild badly. Gonna sell it most likely and get a 402/3/8ci and a single turbo something. If I get another N/A engine, even if it has 650 RWHP, I'm gonna get bored in 1 month and wish I did more. I'm not gonna make that mistake again, like I already did. The 427ci served its purpose....it made me realize I need 1,000 RWHP, at least, to be pleased.....lol And I'll need 1,000 RWHP just to keep up with some of the crazy cars down here. Beating them, forget it. Well, with the NRE 454ci TT I'd smoke everything.........
I was lucky enough to get Tom to do this combo a few years back and put it in a 1968 Firebird with a stick. These were the 91 octane runs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvlbWPCG1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvlbWPCG1E
And whats amazing is.....take his 408ci TT that makes 1,650 hp....its less than half the price of the best LPE TT set-up and will completely *** rape it in power and quality. So really, his pricing for his work is great......
Oh well, we'll see, still researching some things.
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my car is running about 13lbs of boost no dyno numbers but it is prob close to 750 rwhp. It isn't really that fun to drive on the street anymore. Goes through tires like crazy, Can't stop them from spinning, when the turbo spools you better be ready and in a straight line or your in for big trouble. It also idles a bit high for my liking but I can't drop it down below 850rpm with the 80lb injectors. and the cam is stinky too. And I can't even listen to the radio the car is so loud. Lets not talk about the fuel mileage. ahaha.... I d say I ruined my daily driver.... I would say 5-6oo is nice it would be nicer to have a more progressive build too, that may make it better.
Anyway this is just my opinion.
I think once you are beating bikes.... No need to have anymore power.
Anyway this is just my opinion.
I think once you are beating bikes.... No need to have anymore power.
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my 536hp/900lb-ft 2wd 6200lb cummins (auto) was a blast to drive on the street (I have it torn down for a better build.) On dry pavement with 35's, I would leave black marks all the way to 80mph from a dig. I actually could keep up with some bikes from a roll. here is a vid of me racing my buddy's 600 in my truck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8UG7jNWxY
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The power isnt the problem. It is the small things that you always have to maintain. about 900 is where I tell people that you have to start thinking about how much you really want to work on the thing. The power is easy to make, it just cost money. It is the time you spend on the upkeep that most people dont understand.
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Yeah, but its old and tired.........runs great still, but needs a rebuild badly. Gonna sell it most likely and get a 402/3/8ci and a single turbo something.
That sounds like a plan.
And whats amazing is.....take his 408ci TT that makes 1,650 hp....its less than half the price of the best LPE TT set-up and will completely *** rape it in power and quality. So really, his pricing for his work is great...... Agree. People always say is so expensive, but it usually includes a ton of stuff that others charge extra for. I have been lucky enough to see quite a few of NRE engines and cars and they truly are sick.
Oh well, we'll see, still researching some things.
That sounds like a plan.
And whats amazing is.....take his 408ci TT that makes 1,650 hp....its less than half the price of the best LPE TT set-up and will completely *** rape it in power and quality. So really, his pricing for his work is great...... Agree. People always say is so expensive, but it usually includes a ton of stuff that others charge extra for. I have been lucky enough to see quite a few of NRE engines and cars and they truly are sick.
Oh well, we'll see, still researching some things.
Maybe go for a ride sometime down in your area...
Power can range, just depends on what you can get to the ground...