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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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You need to put the diode in your transbrake wire, directed so the ground can only go into the transmission but not feed back into the 2-step
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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Ground -> Button -> 2 step activation -> Diode -> Transbrake.

Put the banded end of the Diode should be toward the transbrake...(you should be able to verify this with a multimeter).

Get a 1 or 2 amp diode from radio shack.

This also assumes ground activation of the 2 step.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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So on the banded end of the diode have the t brake wire running into the banded end, and on the other end of the diode have the 2 step act. wire running from that other end to the button itself, then on the other side of the button run that to ground.

Sound right?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
So on the banded end of the diode have the t brake wire running into the banded end, and on the other end of the diode have the 2 step act. wire running from that other end to the button itself, then on the other side of the button run that to ground.

Sound right?
Yep. Basically a diode is an electrical check valve, electricity can flow 1 direction, but not the other.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
So on the banded end of the diode have the t brake wire running into the banded end, and on the other end of the diode have the 2 step act. wire running from that other end to the button itself, then on the other side of the button run that to ground.

Sound right?
Just curious, who's 2 step?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:52 PM
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MSD, it can use either 12v activation or ground activation.

So how I said in post 23 is how it should be right?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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If I wire it like I said in post 23 and this diode works like I think it does, it will only allow the ground signal that is coming from the transbrake to travel through the diode activating the 2 step when the button is pressed, correct?
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
If I wire it like I said in post 23 and this diode works like I think it does, it will only allow the ground signal that is coming from the transbrake to travel through the diode activating the 2 step when the button is pressed, correct?
Yep. Also you should still be ok with MSD's safety activation crap....still do like you did before with the shifter in 2nd, just press the button at idle.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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Yep. Also you should still be ok with MSD's safety activation crap....still do like you did before with the shifter in 2nd, just press the button at idle.
Yea if I don't press the seperate two step button at the same time I start my stage it wont cut on because of that stupid 1/3rd rpm drop window it has to see or whatever. I should of got the LPE unit, but I had heard glitch problems with the LNC-002 so I was gonna wait for the new one with timing retard by boost psi but I decided to just go with the msd. I think my staging will be a lot more consistent and now I'll always be able to launch a hundred or two rpm before my converter stalls to give it that hit and help it flash through the stall instead of lugging on it the first 60-100' out the gate then coming alive.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 12:43 AM
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You know what I just might set my 2 step at 3000rpm since thats what it stalls to on the footbrake when I'm in 3rd staging at 7psi so that it starts popping and cutting spark on the footbrake giving the turbo a lot more time to spool and then once I light the 2nd light downshift like I have been doing into 1st to set the t brake. I bet I'd still build 10psi of boost just at 3000rpm instead of 3600 or 3800 like I've been launching at. I bet that would give it one helluva hit to help flash through the converter.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 02:04 AM
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u want to hook ur trans brake and 2 step together.

Dont worry about the diode dilema. just run the 12v act wire (white with blue stripes) on msd and hook it to ur + trans brake and then to a push buttom. Perf on the shifter ****. done. Ive been running this for well over a year with no issues.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FasTimeSS
u want to hook ur trans brake and 2 step together.

Dont worry about the diode dilema. just run the 12v act wire (white with blue stripes) on msd and hook it to ur + trans brake and then to a push buttom. Perf on the shifter ****. done. Ive been running this for well over a year with no issues.
Jake's transbrake uses a shift solenoid to activate it, so without a diode, the 2 step engages in 3rd and 4th.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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how would it engage in 3rd and 4th if its on a push button?
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FasTimeSS
u want to hook ur trans brake and 2 step together.

Dont worry about the diode dilema. just run the 12v act wire (white with blue stripes) on msd and hook it to ur + trans brake and then to a push buttom. Perf on the shifter ****. done. Ive been running this for well over a year with no issues.
thats how mine is wired, works great
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FasTimeSS
how would it engage in 3rd and 4th if its on a push button?
Because it uses the 3/4 solenoid in the transmission. When the trans is in 3rd or 4th gear, the 3/4 solenoid is active. It feeds back to the 2 step (unless a diode is in the way)
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Originally Posted by slow67
Because it uses the 3/4 solenoid in the transmission. When the trans is in 3rd or 4th gear, the 3/4 solenoid is active. It feeds back to the 2 step (unless a diode is in the way)
This.

Jake's t brake uses a - not positive for activation.

Slow, you think that the hot 12v that feeds our tranny's for jakes box is giving the t brake power and that the only thing that completes it is the yellow ground? If that is the case shouldn't I be able to just hook the yellow t brake wire directly to the ground on the button and the msd 12v act. to the + side on the button?
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
This.

Jake's t brake uses a - not positive for activation.

Slow, you think that the hot 12v that feeds our tranny's for jakes box is giving the t brake power and that the only thing that completes it is the yellow ground? If that is the case shouldn't I be able to just hook the yellow t brake wire directly to the ground on the button and the msd 12v act. to the + side on the button?
No, because the hot wire also feeds the other shift solenoid and the TCC.
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Originally Posted by slow67
No, because the hot wire also feeds the other shift solenoid and the TCC.
that's what I figured that it powered those also, but wouldn't that still work? And that way the t brake ground can't feed back into the 2 step since the button's circuit will not be complete, or do you think I will fry something this way?
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
that's what I figured that it powered those also, but wouldn't that still work? And that way the t brake ground can't feed back into the 2 step since the button's circuit will not be complete, or do you think I will fry something this way?
No, when you shift its grounded through the transmission case. The Tbrake circuit is Tee'd into it this circuit.
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so even if I ran the t brake wire to a ground point on my shifter and from there to the ground side of the button that still wouldn't work?
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