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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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^^^with that line of thinking, may as well just leave it stock because that's how the OE does it^^^
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
^^^with that line of thinking, may as well just leave it stock because that's how the OE does it^^^
Yea!! Wait....... no!!
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Maybe you could get away with a smaller cooler, which will give you more options on where to mount it. What kind of trans and converter do you have? Does it have lockup?

Trans fluid is a little more hearty that its sometimes made out to be. It doesn't have to be ice cold, or nearly as cool as you want your intake temps. A smaller cooler might still be able to keep you in a safe operating range. If you have a high-stall converter though, you will need some significant cooling.

Also, does your radiator have a transmission cooler built into the side tank that you could use?
I want a cooler with -AN fittings and could not find a small (width wise) cooler with them. Yes I do have a cooler built into the radiator. I run the trans cooler in series with the radiator cooler.

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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 05HD
How did you run out of room on an 82 Monte? Lambo V12 swap?
When you add dual pusher fans and a intercooler space becomes an issue for mounting the transcooler in behind the front grill. I could mount it between the engine and radiator but that's not a good location.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
You could always mount the trans cooler down low and out of the way and horizontal with the ground. Bob
Exactly what I decided to do. I'm going to horizontally mount them about 1 to 2" above the front bumper by mounting them to a bracket I made that holds the intercooler.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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How do you put all the quotes in one box LOL?
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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What cooler are you using? There are A LOT of different fluid coolers with AN fittings on them, in all different sizes and shapes! Summit has a great selection that is easy to search. Since you are using the radiator tank cooler, you should be able to get away with a smaller cooler.

Do you have an aftermarket high-stall converter?

Originally Posted by Monte4ever
I want a cooler with -AN fittings and could not find a small (width wise) cooler with them. Yes I do have a cooler built into the radiator. I run the trans cooler in series with the radiator cooler.

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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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You could also mount the trans cooler parrallel with the ground and the use an air diverter (build one out of sheet metal) to divert air into the cooler fins. This would make placement easier I think.

Just me thinking outside the box!
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
^^^with that line of thinking, may as well just leave it stock because that's how the OE does it^^^
That was a brain dead comment. You don't think that OEM's put a little thought into what should go in front of the other? Why not take advantage of all of their R&D when doing custom work? You'd rather screw it up and learn the hard way?

Originally Posted by Monte4ever
When you add dual pusher fans and a intercooler space becomes an issue for mounting the transcooler in behind the front grill. I could mount it between the engine and radiator but that's not a good location.
Why push fans? They don't work so good.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 05HD
That was a brain dead comment. You don't think that OEM's put a little thought into what should go in front of the other? Why not take advantage of all of their R&D when doing custom work? You'd rather screw it up and learn the hard way?


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Why push fans? They don't work so good.
My guess would be because he can't fit a puller but I'm brain dead so what would I know?
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 05HD
That was a brain dead comment. You don't think that OEM's put a little thought into what should go in front of the other? Why not take advantage of all of their R&D when doing custom work? You'd rather screw it up and learn the hard way?
Im sure they do put thought into their work but they arent dealing with pushing 7-800hp consistently thru their "OEM" engines. When you're only working with half that hp, there is a little more room for error, ie, not needing to keep the engine extremely cool as its not seeing the higher temps/excessive wear and tear of a race car. Just a thought.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller




My guess would be because he can't fit a puller but I'm brain dead so what would I know?
You just told us all that you are guessing so you obviously don't know anything.

Originally Posted by Fb0dy0nly
Im sure they do put thought into their work but they arent dealing with pushing 7-800hp consistently thru their "OEM" engines. When you're only working with half that hp, there is a little more room for error, ie, not needing to keep the engine extremely cool as its not seeing the higher temps/excessive wear and tear of a race car. Just a thought.
Really? Now we have to have a debate on what is harder to keep cool, a race car or a pulling truck?

I posted here to help Monte4ever out with his question. I provided a logical and well thought out answer that would have steered him in the right direction. If anyone has a logical and well thought out reason why my idea would have steered him wrong, I'd love to hear it. Enough with the "we make mo powah" and "may as well just leave it all stock" crap though, really. Neither of you had any ideas for the guy.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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Do you have a picture of your setup? Is it possible to move your intercooler further forward than where you have it now? I have about 1 1/2 feet between my intercooler and radiator, and my cooler is in between the two....02 trans am with the IC waaaaaay out in the bumper and stock radiator/fan setup...
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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and fwiw....cobrakiller has a bad *** setup and has done a ton of research...so I wouldn't count his ideas out.......
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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05HD have you seen or read up on CobraKiller's stuff and what he and his crew can do?

As far as room for a puller I am using a C5 front accessory drive system which puts the F1A in the way for dual's. I do have room for a single but I'm set on running dual's.

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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Do you have a picture of your setup? Is it possible to move your intercooler further forward than where you have it now? I have about 1 1/2 feet between my intercooler and radiator, and my cooler is in between the two....02 trans am with the IC waaaaaay out in the bumper and stock radiator/fan setup...
I have a little over 4" between the intercooler and radiator. There is absolutely no room to move it further forward.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 1980LT1
You could also mount the trans cooler parrallel with the ground and the use an air diverter (build one out of sheet metal) to divert air into the cooler fins. This would make placement easier I think.

Just me thinking outside the box!

I decided on placing them 1 to 2" horizontally to the ground behind the front bumper within 12" from the stock plastic air-dam (air diverter). There should be plenty of air flow there.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Monte4ever
05HD have you seen or read up on CobraKiller's stuff and what he and his crew can do?
Originally Posted by 020NN20
and fwiw....cobrakiller has a bad *** setup and has done a ton of research...so I wouldn't count his ideas out.......
I don't really care what he is capable of or how cool his car is, he obviously didn't come in here to help anyone and hasn't posted any ideas.

Originally Posted by Monte4ever
As far as room for a puller I am using a C5 front accessory drive system which puts the F1A in the way for dual's. I do have room for a single but I'm set on running dual's.
I think you'd be better off with a single pull fan as opposed to 2 pushers but you may as well try it how you have it and see if you have any trouble keeping it cool, seeing as it sounds like you already have it together.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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hey 05hd get lost

moving on to the topic i was not a fan at all of putting my cooler in front of anything on my car is i came up with this and i must say it has worked out way better than i could have hope it would

i got this cooler of jegs its a bar and plate type good for 30k gvw, it came with a 600cfm fan, and take AN fittings i have -6an line on it now. the fan blows to the right so there is no fighting for air flow with the rad. or innercooler. all the fans come on at the same time. i have never seen over 150degs even at the track sitting.



in this pic you can see the trans cooler on the left and the bottom of the innercooler on the right



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hope this helps
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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Good post tomz28if every one just did what every one else did life would suck. Give an idea a shot. If it works great. If not try another one. There is no right or wrong way to do custom stuff.
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