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Old 02-20-2011 | 10:40 PM
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http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/

another good place to check that i use, they have just about everything you;ll need except the ls head flange
Old 02-20-2011 | 10:56 PM
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which i have found ls flanges on ebay for cheap!
Old 02-25-2011 | 06:46 PM
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It almost hurts to see smth. like this...
Old 02-25-2011 | 06:51 PM
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It is pretty bad isn't it. LOL
Old 02-25-2011 | 08:09 PM
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Just painful. Especially remembering how much time my exhaust tubing took
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Old 03-02-2011 | 12:40 AM
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People just dont understand airflow ..
Old 03-02-2011 | 01:51 PM
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hope you didn't mean my goodies, or I'll fly over to where you are and put your life to the end
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Wasnt there a turbo kit out of the trucks that utilized a cast manifold on the pass side and a tubular on the driver side? Is this a bad setup? I had to do this on my car since the tubular I was originally going to run hit the mount on my pass side, forcing me to use a cast manifold.
Old 03-03-2011 | 09:31 PM
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hope you didn't mean my goodies, or I'll fly over to where you are and put your life to the end
I highly doubt it ,,but i was agreeing with you chief..
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here is another log..

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Old 04-24-2011 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CHRIS-CBRPerformance
Everyone is using the term “flow” when they should be using the term “pressure differential”.

How can anyone talk flow when the exhaust gets to the turbine housing it has to pass through
2 holes with the area slightly larger than a golf ball. One being a .96 T4 housing and the other
being the wastegate.

There maybe some advantages to a full on tube header on a 2500 HP race only max effort
race car.

If one of these guys would put a set of “log headers” on there 2500 HP race car
you would be surprised at how much power it would make.

They don’t look as sexy as a set of headers so they must not work… right?
^^^ thank you X2... logs will get the job done. look at stock48 and flaco are running in their heavy trucks 9s flat and 9.60s on logs with stock driver manifols
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ZZP put 900 to the wheels on a 2.0 liter, log manifold, and T3 turbine turbo. The manifold was originally made from sch 10 elbows and now cast for them.

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5679324-post64.html
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Originally Posted by CHRIS-CBRPerformance
Everyone is using the term “flow” when they should be using the term “pressure differential”.

How can anyone talk flow when the exhaust gets to the turbine housing it has to pass through
2 holes with the area slightly larger than a golf ball. One being a .96 T4 housing and the other
being the wastegate.

There maybe some advantages to a full on tube header on a 2500 HP race only max effort
race car.

If one of these guys would put a set of “log headers” on there 2500 HP race car
you would be surprised at how much power it would make.

They don’t look as sexy as a set of headers so they must not work… right?
maybe you should prove it.

have you read what corky bell has to say on the subject? you could've gone with an individual primary design on the setup you guys are marketing, but didnt. why? log manifolds are not only going to inhibit power, spool, but they're also less durable. they dont allow for expansion/contraction like an individual primary setup.

also, you claim power capabilities of 1800, where do you get that number? and since when is engineering taken so lightly on a setup making that kind of power?
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Originally Posted by Blownz28man
I'd love to use truck manifolds but its in a Thirdgen camaro and the Power Steering gear box is in the way. I know you can cut the flanges off and weld V-bands but its cast iron and seems like a potential headache. Its been done before. I could use Truck Shorty Headers and weld v-bands to them, or custom build mild stell headers and get them coated, or check into log manifolds which is kinda ify.. Not a bunch of info on them.
What if you just used an electric power steering pump? Then there would be no clearance issue. It would also free up a little hp. I will be running a pump from a Mazda 3 that I picked up for $75. Add a little $ for custom hydraulic lines and it is still cheaper and easier than custom headers.
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Truck manis work in third gens facing forward and up without modification. I'm not a fan of the look so ill be doing custom stainless headers. I have about 600 bucks in flanges and pipe for the complete setup.
Old 04-24-2011 | 09:09 PM
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99 fbody passenger side manifold fits on the drivers side without hitting the steering box, I have one if your interested... I just couldn't find one for the drivers side and didn't want to go the welded v band flange route either, so I decided on custom stainless headers.
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Originally Posted by CHRIS-CBRPerformance
Mercury racing has a bigger budget than most of us, they could have used
anything they choose....... looks like "logs" to me!!!!
http://mercuryracing.com/sterndrives/hp1350/specs.php
LOLOLOLOL wtf. im sorry, but you're an idiot. no, they couldnt have used anything. those are water cooled. not only that, but they're cast, which makes them far more durable than weld'els.
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and you also didnt answer any of my questions...
Old 04-24-2011 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CHRIS-CBRPerformance
I think the truck guys have proven the durability and performance of the fabricated
manifold.

Like it or not there not the kiss of death some make them out to be.

You can do things with weld els in tight places that can't be done any other way
with common fab tools.
truck guys? whos that?

you could have done an individual primary header, plain and simple. even with the turbo's in the same spot.


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