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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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so im going to turbo a ctsv, against all odds, ill make it work. so when i get this thing tuned... whats the best tune type you go with... i was wondering if i should upgrade to an ls3 cartridge style maf or stick with the stock ls2 maf... or can you go to a full out MAP sensor, as they have both. or in the tuning just go with a speed density tune... i dont know a ton on tuning, but just wanted a little more in GM world. any input would be appreciated
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I know the problem with GM MAF's has always been that they output frequency instead of voltage...So they max out easily and there's no way that I know of to extend the signal. In the Ford world, the MAF's output voltage for their signal, and it's easy to extend their range and make big power(900+ rwhp with a Lightning MAF).

I don't know about the LS3 MAF at all, but I'm assuming it's in the same boat as the previous models.


That being said, a speed density tune with a 3-bar MAP will likely be easier and more reliable to make power with. You can get away with the MAF in a blow-through configuration if you're not looking to make too much power. I'm sure the pro LS1 tuners on here can shed some light.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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I know the problem with GM MAF's has always been that they output frequency instead of voltage...So they max out easily and there's no way that I know of to extend the signal. In the Ford world, the MAF's output voltage for their signal, and it's easy to extend their range and make big power(900+ rwhp with a Lightning MAF).

I don't know about the LS3 MAF at all, but I'm assuming it's in the same boat as the previous models.


That being said, a speed density tune with a 3-bar MAP will likely be easier and more reliable to make power with. You can get away with the MAF in a blow-through configuration if you're not looking to make too much power. I'm sure the pro LS1 tuners on here can shed some light.
The other problem is the MAF table runs out of fuel (values maxed out) without scaling anything (PITA!).
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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I would go speed density, but you really need to consult with the person who your going to have tune it to find out what they're comfortable with.
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