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My car picked up around 250-300hp once I put the F1A on it! I just kept spraying nitrous until I saved up the money for it.
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Originally Posted by Mike 02T/A
My car picked up around 250-300hp once I put the F1A on it! I just kept spraying nitrous until I saved up the money for it.
Nice!!
I really like the specs on this cam. I was thinking I might have to drop further below .600 on lift because of clearance. I'm using an LQ4 with 317 heads.
It looks like this cam will be no issue with clearance. I like the LS to.
I already have the new turbo and I'm still gathering parts.
The install is going in my 74 AMX.
I'm sure I will be ordering soon. Thanks Again!!!!
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Got it. Thanks for the link.
You're welcome. Thanks. Bob
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Originally Posted by Mike 02T/A
My car picked up around 250-300hp once I put the F1A on it! I just kept spraying nitrous until I saved up the money for it.
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Mike, I got to thinking, how many years have you owned that car now?
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
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Mike, I got to thinking, how many years have you owneIvhat car now?
I've owned it since 04, used nitrous for about 4 years or so. I built everything for boost in late 2011. Finally added the F1A kit in late 2013. One track outing and the best so far is 9.764@144.xx , 1.5xx 60 ft. That's with the 5.25 inch pulley on it also!
Anyone needing a Procharger needs to call Bob! He will answer all your questions and is very patient. I know I asked him the same questions over and over again!
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Originally Posted by Mike 02T/A
I've owned it since 04, used nitrous for about 4 years or so. I built everything for boost in late 2011. Finally added the F1A kit in late 2013. One track outing and the best so far is 9.764@144.xx , 1.5xx 60 ft. That's with the 5.25 inch pulley on it also!
Anyone needing a Procharger needs to call Bob! He will answer all your questions and is very patient. I know I asked him the same questions over and over again!
I knew you've owned it for quite awhile, that's awesome!

Thanks Mike, I really appreciate it! Bob
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Hi Bob @ Brute Speed and all,


I've recently picked up a 2002 SS/SLP Camaro M6 and plan to install a D-1SC Procharger on the stock LS1. Later on I will just replace that engine with a forged LS1 (and maybe 243/LS6 heads).


However, I'm looking at this blower cam from Brute Speed. I guess where I get hung up is understanding why and how much Head/Cam/Intake upgrades make a difference when you're going to run Forced Induction anyway. I mean, the h/c/I is to bring in more air...which is accomplished with FI. So does h/c/I really make much of a difference if you plan on running FI anyway?




Just because I'm such an egghead and need to understand how everything works, I was hoping that someone could explain the following to me:
  • How much more HP/TQ to expect with blower cam and Procharger vs. stock cam and Procharger? Why?
  • How does HP/TQ with blower cam compare to stock cam when both setups are naturally aspirated?
  • If blower cam performs better when under FI than when N/A...Why?
  • What is the RPM operating range of the blower cam under N/A? Does it offer good low end?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by LSnoobee
Hi Bob @ Brute Speed and all,


I've recently picked up a 2002 SS/SLP Camaro M6 and plan to install a D-1SC Procharger on the stock LS1. Later on I will just replace that engine with a forged LS1 (and maybe 243/LS6 heads).


However, I'm looking at this blower cam from Brute Speed. I guess where I get hung up is understanding why and how much Head/Cam/Intake upgrades make a difference when you're going to run Forced Induction anyway. I mean, the h/c/I is to bring in more air...which is accomplished with FI. So does h/c/I really make much of a difference if you plan on running FI anyway?




Just because I'm such an egghead and need to understand how everything works, I was hoping that someone could explain the following to me:
  • How much more HP/TQ to expect with blower cam and Procharger vs. stock cam and Procharger? Why?
  • How does HP/TQ with blower cam compare to stock cam when both setups are naturally aspirated?
  • If blower cam performs better when under FI than when N/A...Why?
  • What is the RPM operating range of the blower cam under N/A? Does it offer good low end?
Thanks!

Adding better flowing heads, cam, etc to any engine is going to make changes to it, regardless of it being N/A or boosted. Using the CTS-V of skydiver on here as an example, we were an 809 rwhp and 14.4 psi of boost, with this cam in it. We swapped out the stock LS2 intake manifold for a Fast 92 intake manifold, and as a result of the FAST 92 flowing so much better we lost 2 psi of boost. The hp at the rear tires though went from 809 to 864 even with the reduction in boost! An unported LS2 intake manifold is probably the worst LS intake, you won't see these kind of gains with swapping out the other LS intakes. I don't recall what the torque increase was, but the 864 rwhp dyno graph is shown in the link for this cam on my website. Take a look at the torque this engine produces at just 2000 rpm on the graph.

https://vimeo.com/4192845
http://www.superchevy.com/features/0...cadillac-ctsv/

This cam comes in fairly early and max power is normally done by 6400 rpm.

People have used this cam N/A prior to installing a blower and have reported increases of 60 rwhp, I'm not sure what their torque increases were.

Hopefully some of the people who have used this cam chime in here. Thanks. Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
Adding better flowing heads, cam, etc to any engine is going to make changes to it, regardless of it being N/A or boosted. Using the CTS-V of skydiver on here as an example, we were an 809 rwhp and 14.4 psi of boost, with this cam in it. We swapped out the stock LS2 intake manifold for a Fast 92 intake manifold, and as a result of the FAST 92 flowing so much better we lost 2 psi of boost. The hp at the rear tires though went from 809 to 864 even with the reduction in boost! An unported LS2 intake manifold is probably the worst LS intake, you won't see these kind of gains with swapping out the other LS intakes. I don't recall what the torque increase was, but the 864 rwhp dyno graph is shown in the link for this cam on my website. Take a look at the torque this engine produces at just 2000 rpm on the graph.

https://vimeo.com/4192845
http://www.superchevy.com/features/0...cadillac-ctsv/

This cam comes in fairly early and max power is normally done by 6400 rpm.

People have used this cam N/A prior to installing a blower and have reported increases of 60 rwhp, I'm not sure what their torque increases were.

Hopefully some of the people who have used this cam chime in here. Thanks. Bob
Once again, thanks for the feedback Bob.


I can see why you could generate more HP even with less boost. That makes total sense. As you probably realize, I have the LS6 intake so that is probably sufficient. I have a hard time stomaching $1000+ for FAST intake and TB.


I would really like to hear from someone who installed this cam AFTER installing the Procharger. Anyone?


Thanks again Bob!
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
Adding better flowing heads, cam, etc to any engine is going to make changes to it, regardless of it being N/A or boosted. Using the CTS-V of skydiver on here as an example, we were an 809 rwhp and 14.4 psi of boost, with this cam in it. We swapped out the stock LS2 intake manifold for a Fast 92 intake manifold, and as a result of the FAST 92 flowing so much better we lost 2 psi of boost. The hp at the rear tires though went from 809 to 864 even with the reduction in boost! An unported LS2 intake manifold is probably the worst LS intake, you won't see these kind of gains with swapping out the other LS intakes. I don't recall what the torque increase was, but the 864 rwhp dyno graph is shown in the link for this cam on my website. Take a look at the torque this engine produces at just 2000 rpm on the graph.

https://vimeo.com/4192845
http://www.superchevy.com/features/0...cadillac-ctsv/

This cam comes in fairly early and max power is normally done by 6400 rpm.

People have used this cam N/A prior to installing a blower and have reported increases of 60 rwhp, I'm not sure what their torque increases were.

Hopefully some of the people who have used this cam chime in here. Thanks. Bob


Thanks again Bob. I'm really looking forward to purchasing my Procharger system from you.


I would really like to know how the 'Blower Cam' will affect my low end torque on the stock engine/cam (2002 LS1 without Procharger)...and hopefully someone can chime in as to how the 'Blower Cam' affects performance (vs. stock LS1 cam with LS6 intake) after the installation of the D-1SC Procharger.


No takers?!


C'mon guys, someone has to have went through this modification.


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Originally Posted by LSnoobee
Thanks again Bob. I'm really looking forward to purchasing my Procharger system from you.


I would really like to know how the 'Blower Cam' will affect my low end torque on the stock engine/cam (2002 LS1 without Procharger)...and hopefully someone can chime in as to how the 'Blower Cam' affects performance (vs. stock LS1 cam with LS6 intake) after the installation of the D-1SC Procharger.


No takers?!


C'mon guys, someone has to have went through this modification.


LSnoobee

https://www.google.com/#q=brute+speed+blower+cam
https://www.google.com/#q=epp+blower+cam

These two links should help you out. Bob
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