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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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Default Pin crank from front or side with ati dampner?

To all the procharged guys I got the ati dampner and thoughy I had to have the ati pin kit so I was tryin to sell my pin kit that pins the front of the crank till I was informed that it will work as well as the side pinning ati kit. Just curious what kit yall have used, which is better, and easier to install thanks. Also should I do 1 pin or 2 with 15 psi?
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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If its a ATI unit it should have the key way on the side. NO reason to pin it from the end. Why inflict damage on the hi dollar balancer.
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My vortech kit has the ati balancer and I used the front pin kit with good results so far. It looks easier to me but I havent done the side method so ?????
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I'm going to pin mine from the front. There's more contact surface between the pins and balancer. Your not ruining it by doing that...if anything your making it "stronger". I plan on doing 2 pins 180* out from eachother.
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Originally Posted by blue00ZZleeper
I'm going to pin mine from the front. There's more contact surface between the pins and balancer. Your not ruining it by doing that...if anything your making it "stronger". I plan on doing 2 pins 180* out from eachother.
and your using the ati?
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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I'm not yet. Its sitting in my garage waiting to go on. I spoke to Bob at EPP and he said that was a good way of doing it. I did it with my old style dampner and I'm going to drill it from the front with 2 pins on my new dampner.
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Originally Posted by blue00ZZleeper
I'm not yet. Its sitting in my garage waiting to go on. I spoke to Bob at EPP and he said that was a good way of doing it. I did it with my old style dampner and I'm going to drill it from the front with 2 pins on my new dampner.
Mine is done this way and I only used 1 pin incase I had to change engines and re use the balancer.
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Originally Posted by blue00ZZleeper
I'm going to pin mine from the front. There's more contact surface between the pins and balancer. Your not ruining it by doing that...if anything your making it "stronger". I plan on doing 2 pins 180* out from eachother.

This is the best way to do it .

If your using a big procharger this is the only way to do it. if a pin breaks under load with the side mount and spin on the crank it mess everything up

Side note i think one pin from the front might be fine i ran a F1C this way for a few miles on a 6speed till i rebuild the engine and went duals
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Cool decided to stick with the front thanks guys
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ok am i missing something or what i can see the provision in the dampner for a side pin but how does a front pin hold it in place does it use the same provision as the side?

ok i just read about 10 threads that say use the ati pin kit and that the horizontal pin kit wont work with the ati dampner without modification wtf im so confused.

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Either will work fine. I just used the ATI side pin kit so I wouldnt have to drill into the expensive blancer. And if you get a crank with a keyway in the future you can use the side slot. The side pin kit would have more holding power from an engineering point of view, greater distance out=more leverage for a given shear force. The front pin leaves some funny half moon shapes in the crank and dampener too if you ever remove it. But either will work.
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