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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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I have a new APS base kit with LG billet turbos installed in my car which hasnt been fired up yet (dont know if thats considered new still since its installed). I have emailed Josh from Kentucky Turbo and decided to purchase his twin kit in a few months. Seeing many of members here on the board have posted pictures and results of many of Josh's kits i am at loss for words with the quality and pricing of the Kentucky turbo kits.

Just wanted to get an idea from the members on here on what my current APS junk is worth.

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LG Turbo upgrades
Upgraded to AN fittings and steel braded lines
Custom tig welded 3in air inlets (ditched the flimsy collapsing inlets)
Upgraded to Turbosmart Supersonic BOVs
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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About $2,000. I'll gladly take it off your hands for you.
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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Well hate to say it but its in your car and you have the LG turbos on there now? And you fixed most of the issues it sounds like. So now have no clue why you would take it all out and sell it for cheap. Run it for awhile . The LG turbos kick ***. They have pretty quick spool up and hit hard and are actually more reliable likely than Ball bearing turbos like gt35 and not hearing the best about Garett these days and always have been a big garett fan.
As has been said a few times, aps manifolds are nice, the downpipes ,intercooler pipes and intercooler are nice. The gates are fine, the blow offs supplied worked ok but I went to supersonic turbosmart as well and they are pretty nice upgrades but pricey and weren't really necessary.I simply stented my inlet tubes working fine so far for me and with bmr aps custom k can run flexible muffler pipe like Tom z28 did not a big deal.
I have little doubt can easily do 1000rwhp with the LG turbos on current engine combo and should have numbers to back up that claim this year or next for sure.Not sure why anyone would want over 1000rwhp can't hook up anywhere near that anyway.And on the street well..LOL

But hey whatever floats your boat. And that said top mount turbos would be pretty neat visually, the aps are of course hidden down low and that makes things a pain to get to sometimes.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 08:20 AM
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About $2,000. I'll gladly take it off your hands for you.
just for the billet turbos it was around $2,800
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Well hate to say it but its in your car and you have the LG turbos on there now? And you fixed most of the issues it sounds like. So now have no clue why you would take it all out and sell it for cheap. Run it for awhile . The LG turbos kick ***. They have pretty quick spool up and hit hard and are actually more reliable likely than Ball bearing turbos like gt35 and not hearing the best about Garett these days and always have been a big garett fan.
As has been said a few times, aps manifolds are nice, the downpipes ,intercooler pipes and intercooler are nice. The gates are fine, the blow offs supplied worked ok but I went to supersonic turbosmart as well and they are pretty nice upgrades but pricey and weren't really necessary.I simply stented my inlet tubes working fine so far for me and with bmr aps custom k can run flexible muffler pipe like Tom z28 did not a big deal.
I have little doubt can easily do 1000rwhp with the LG turbos on current engine combo and should have numbers to back up that claim this year or next for sure.Not sure why anyone would want over 1000rwhp can't hook up anywhere near that anyway.And on the street well..LOL

But hey whatever floats your boat. And that said top mount turbos would be pretty neat visually, the aps are of course hidden down low and that makes things a pain to get to sometimes.
How are the characteristics in your car? Does the turbos spool much quicker due to 427 ci? Also, would a scavenger pump be feasable in my setup? Awesome ERL set up by the way
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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i just ordered a kit from josh also... a single billet precision 76mm kit. if i were in your shoes i think i would just run the kit you have.... sounds like you have a lot invested that your not going to get your money back out of. from what i have heard the turbos and inlet tubes are the problems to begin with which you fixed.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dcblackss
How are the characteristics in your car? Does the turbos spool much quicker due to 427 ci? Also, would a scavenger pump be feasable in my setup? Awesome ERL set up by the way
Spool up is very quick. No need for ball bearing turbos although they are a bit better in manual cars as they can keep spooled up better than non ball bearing between shifts. Being auto that is not a problem for me.

Also so far not really seeing any need for scavenger pump.I bought one and may use it but so far not using it. I am coming up on 500 miles on my 427/LG install. So far everything looks great. Be giving it second oil change in couple of days but don't foresee any problems.

Not everything on the aps kit is junk. Aside from the knock off turbo thing, and not sure everyone of the f body kits was knockoffs, as said mine were still boosting when removed after around 5000 miles on the 408..aside from that most of the other problems are pretty easily solved but the solutions can require money.

Since you have the kit in the car I would run it for awhile. See how you like it.
If you hate it then sell it. I repeat that would not buy a new kit if was in the market from APS as there is zero after sales service from them unless Peter has stepped down ,sold APS out or had big about face in his attitude.
I would if looking most likely get the Modular Kit. Sure its more money than APS but it is well thought out and does look to address problem areas in the APS kit and I think after sale service will be much better although do feel better usually dealing with very big companies as smaller ones sometimes go bye bye and not saying this to dis Modular. They said they were making a kit and they made a kit. And are selling the kits. APS at least did ship kits. I lost 2000 to company called GMR that went under with 2000 of my money after putting deposit on their kit and others lost money on incon,etc,etc.

Too bad am moving to west coast in week or so. I was hoping to get my car up and running sooner and get dyno numbers/dyno tuning and run it at local 1/4 mile track,possibly local outlaw 1/4 mile track. That likely now won't get done until next year. While where moving has milder winter still do get winter and track likely will be closed before get car ready to run this year.

But all I can say is so far my 99TT with 427 and the LG turbos is the fastest car I or most anyone I know has ever been in and thats at the current 10psi.
Also the car is very streetable went mild on cam for easy tuning,pretty much no lope. Stayed conservative on stall and gears and car is very driveable fact you might think it was stock until you put your foot into it then you better hold on tight!
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Spool up is very quick. No need for ball bearing turbos although they are a bit better in manual cars as they can keep spooled up better than non ball bearing between shifts. Being auto that is not a problem for me.

Also so far not really seeing any need for scavenger pump.I bought one and may use it but so far not using it. I am coming up on 500 miles on my 427/LG install. So far everything looks great. Be giving it second oil change in couple of days but don't foresee any problems.

Not everything on the aps kit is junk. Aside from the knock off turbo thing, and not sure everyone of the f body kits was knockoffs, as said mine were still boosting when removed after around 5000 miles on the 408..aside from that most of the other problems are pretty easily solved but the solutions can require money.

Since you have the kit in the car I would run it for awhile. See how you like it.
If you hate it then sell it. I repeat that would not buy a new kit if was in the market from APS as there is zero after sales service from them unless Peter has stepped down ,sold APS out or had big about face in his attitude.
I would if looking most likely get the Modular Kit. Sure its more money than APS but it is well thought out and does look to address problem areas in the APS kit and I think after sale service will be much better although do feel better usually dealing with very big companies as smaller ones sometimes go bye bye and not saying this to dis Modular. They said they were making a kit and they made a kit. And are selling the kits. APS at least did ship kits. I lost 2000 to company called GMR that went under with 2000 of my money after putting deposit on their kit and others lost money on incon,etc,etc.

Too bad am moving to west coast in week or so. I was hoping to get my car up and running sooner and get dyno numbers/dyno tuning and run it at local 1/4 mile track,possibly local outlaw 1/4 mile track. That likely now won't get done until next year. While where moving has milder winter still do get winter and track likely will be closed before get car ready to run this year.

But all I can say is so far my 99TT with 427 and the LG turbos is the fastest car I or most anyone I know has ever been in and thats at the current 10psi.
Also the car is very streetable went mild on cam for easy tuning,pretty much no lope. Stayed conservative on stall and gears and car is very driveable fact you might think it was stock until you put your foot into it then you better hold on tight!
Sounds like a perfect set up! Well mannered divability and characteristics for a potential 1000 rwhp car, you couldnt ask for more. You have convinced me to try this kit out and make those turbos scream. Would love to see a video of that beast on the rollers! However, I will still purchase the the kit me and Josh talked about that utilizes twin precison billet 76/75s.
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Sounds like a perfect set up! Well mannered divability and characteristics for a potential 1000 rwhp car, you couldnt ask for more. You have convinced me to try this kit out and make those turbos scream. Would love to see a video of that beast on the rollers! However, I will still purchase the the kit me and Josh talked about that utilizes twin precison billet 76/75s.
Lgs are billet.
Is your car stick or auto. If stick some advantage to ball bearing as said but not a huge deal on a v8 compared to say on a 4 banger like my talons.
If auto not really any advantage at all to bb. Maybe slightly faster spool up but spool up on any decent sized v8 will be very quick on twin setups only gets really laggy on huge single size snails or maybe rear mount setups.

A kit is just piping,intercooler,gates ,blow offs, manifolds,turbos some cooling and oil lines. Its not rocket science. And most of the aps is good quailty ,and the bosch plastic blow offs work fine just sound a bit wimpy but I had mine running open to atmosphere for awhile that was better and since our cars run blow thru maf or speed density no maf no problem running open blow offs.
The turbosmart were mostly put on for sound reasons.They sound neat and are pretty loud.

But hey its your money do what you like. I won't be changing out my kit ,I know from already seeing APS kits with the lg turbos that can hit 1000rwhp on my combo if want to and that would be only for dyno braggin rights ,on the street 800rwhp is lots ,lots. but maybe am just getting old or something. ! LOL
I am even starting to think my stock z06 is fast enough for me.
But I do love the sound of my turbos spooling up and my blow offs doing their thing and do love the push in the back you get from boost. Like a nitrous hit but the bottle never goes empty.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
Lgs are billet.
Is your car stick or auto. If stick some advantage to ball bearing as said but not a huge deal on a v8 compared to say on a 4 banger like my talons.
If auto not really any advantage at all to bb. Maybe slightly faster spool up but spool up on any decent sized v8 will be very quick on twin setups only gets really laggy on huge single size snails or maybe rear mount setups.

A kit is just piping,intercooler,gates ,blow offs, manifolds,turbos some cooling and oil lines. Its not rocket science. And most of the aps is good quailty ,and the bosch plastic blow offs work fine just sound a bit wimpy but I had mine running open to atmosphere for awhile that was better and since our cars run blow thru maf or speed density no maf no problem running open blow offs.
The turbosmart were mostly put on for sound reasons.They sound neat and are pretty loud.

But hey its your money do what you like. I won't be changing out my kit ,I know from already seeing APS kits with the lg turbos that can hit 1000rwhp on my combo if want to and that would be only for dyno braggin rights ,on the street 800rwhp is lots ,lots. but maybe am just getting old or something. ! LOL
I am even starting to think my stock z06 is fast enough for me.
But I do love the sound of my turbos spooling up and my blow offs doing their thing and do love the push in the back you get from boost. Like a nitrous hit but the bottle never goes empty.
The car is manual. Initially the car was intended for just street use but with events such as Holley Fest and Texas Mile, looking to make more than just 800rwhp. But seeing that you have experince with the APS system I feel more optimistic about my car. The shop owner doing my build told me that the power range the car will be in is not for the faint of heart. My car should be done by the end of this month and I will be sure to post a video up! Do you have cutouts on your exhaust? If so, how loud is the turbo spool closed vs open?
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