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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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currently using a tc78 with a 1.15 a/r housing.

my manifold is a t4 flange and not looking to change it,
truck(gmc sonoma 3600lbs) went 10.82 on 10psi looking to comfortably go high 9's with a turbo upgrade and head studs and zr1 gaskets.

the two turbos im looking at are the precision pt78 and the borg warner s380.
i know the precision would get me there and is a pretty potent turbo...

would it be safe to say the S380 would be good for slightly more hp?? bigger turbine wheel ....

for some reason i really wanna try the t4 borg warner unit, i just dont wanna make the wrong move..
(its a 6.0 liter lq4)
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 91blowthru
currently using a tc78 with a 1.15 a/r housing.

my manifold is a t4 flange and not looking to change it,
truck(gmc sonoma 3600lbs) went 10.82 on 10psi looking to comfortably go high 9's with a turbo upgrade and head studs and zr1 gaskets.

the two turbos im looking at are the precision pt78 and the borg warner s380.
i know the precision would get me there and is a pretty potent turbo...

would it be safe to say the S380 would be good for slightly more hp?? bigger turbine wheel ....

for some reason i really wanna try the t4 borg warner unit, i just dont wanna make the wrong move..
(its a 6.0 liter lq4)
I have a S380 for sale and I'll give you your choice of 1.0, 1.1,1.25 a/r housings. The S380 is a great turbo and with the race cover will make big power. Yes I think the S380 will make more power then the PT78.

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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 07:58 AM
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pm sent.

does anyone have any dyno or track numbers using the S380?
ive searched and found very little data on this turbo on v8s.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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S380 will get a 3600lb vehicle to 150mph across the stripe.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hellbents10
S380 will get a 3600lb vehicle to 150mph across the stripe.
Didn't you use this turbo on a stock lq9?
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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from what i understand the s380R would slightly edge out the precision pt78.

with the larger turbine wheels, the 87 or 92mm, how does the s380R compare to the pt88? (t4)
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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145 mph at over 4200lbs here on a PT7875 on a 6.1L
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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Hydrostream6, how many psi did it take to get you there? and did you leave under boost? and what size downpipe? im at 3 1/2" now...

im looking to get my 3625ish lbs to a minimum of 140mph trap.
was at 128.5 with tc78 at around 10psi, no boost on launch...
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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19psi, E85, soft no boost launch (1.65 60'), 3" downpipe
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:16 AM
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im looking into the precision pt78 a little more closely now, because it looks like i could get it to work with my 3 1/2" downpipe with minimal re-fabbing.. where as the s380 would basically require me to re make the downpipe and id wanna step up to 4"...

Hydrostream, i see you had some great results with it..
im wondering, provided i get it to stick, if i can get this setup into the 9's / 140mph trap on the "stock" motor (rod bolts/head studs/ls9 gaskets/ls6 cam)



timeslip shown is with tc78 f1 1.15a/r on 10psi, truck shifted into overdrive at 117 (has 3.73s with 26" tire, will have 3.23s and rev/shiftpoitns raised when i go back.) and made somewheres around 13 psi once the converter locked (from 117-128) yes i was in overdrive on this 10 second pass...

looking to go 9.99 on around 15-17psi... anythoughts on whether the pt78 will get me there? another 12mph..
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I'm a good amount heavier than you are and I'm going mid 140s. And the turbo wasn't showing signs of dropping power yet on the dyno either, I just didn't want to push much more boost with stock heads. 140+ shouldn't be a problem at all with your setup assuming the stock lower end holds up and you can get it to hook.
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Plus your larger dp will help a bit too. Just make an adapter to go down to the 3" of the turbine housing.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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Why not just turn up the boost on the TC? Those turbos really shine around 14-18 PSI.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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yea my downpipe now is 3" v band with a 3" to 3 1/2" cone to full 3 1/2" the rest of the way back.. so im sure with little modification i could get it to work.



im sure the tc78 would get me a good bit more but were putting it on a 5.3 in my buddy's 98 ss with head studs, rod bolts and cam, and that will see around 15psi..


i know it'll be the upper limits of the bottom end, but im hoping around 600-650rwhp will get me there, i was 3625 with me and gas, and itll be a little lighter in the spring, maybe 3500lbs total.
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