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Old 06-07-2012, 04:48 AM
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Not going to get into an arguement, but when the sleeve dropped it allowed the gasket to torch which let it hydrolock. We've been through all that and it isn't the rods fault. We run the Callies ultra billets to 2500 HP + and over 9000 RPM ( 7.20's , 200mph, 3300 -3400 lbs). Changed rod bolts at refresh and going again.
You have got to get the head sealed.
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Why are the sleeves dropping ? Surely that shouldnt be happening...ever

And you mention Ultra billets....not the same as a regular Ultra ?
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No that should not be happening. Are you running the ultra billets in an LS? CBB ultra billets have much more material and looks strong!

No meaning to argue about this. I have all parts i need next week and then it will be ready to finally go racing, that is what´s all about.
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Yes, we are running ultra billets I beam (see pic in Ray Litz 275 build). The pic of yours is an H beam.
I'm glad you're on your way to getting it back together. The MGP or GRP are good rods and I especially like the serrated parting surface.
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Ok. The I-beams look nice!
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Just to be clear and not mis-lead anyone. If you have a cast iron block or spraying a lot of nitrous, then aluminum rod is the way to go for dampening to save the bearings.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Why are the sleeves dropping ? Surely that shouldnt be happening...ever

And you mention Ultra billets....not the same as a regular Ultra ?
X2. Why are they dropping? In which blocks?
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Good choice on going to GRP's, we recommend them at anything nearing 2000hp. Hope it gets better for you Andreas!
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I'm sure it will work ok! To bad you guys did'nt build from the start.
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Did you use the correct sparks plugs, yes or no?
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Correct for what? I read plugs every pull and can post picture of them here. Stop making up excuses for that the sleeves dropped and you choose the wrong rods. I´m the tuner of the worlds fastest lsx you are not.

As i wrote on yellowbullet: Fraser have lost a customer because of all his bullshit. I have bought parts and engines from him the last 4 years and this is how i get threated?
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Originally Posted by camaroandreas
Correct for what? I read plugs every pull and can post picture of them here. Stop making up excuses for that the sleeves dropped and you choose the wrong rods. I´m the tuner of the worlds fastest lsx you are not.

As i wrote on yellowbullet: Fraser have lost a customer because of all his bullshit. I have bought parts and engines from him the last 4 years and this is how i get threated?
Just wanted to post and say sorry about the motor. I hope the build goes back together without any issues.
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Originally Posted by Quick Carl
Yes, we are running ultra billets I beam (see pic in Ray Litz 275 build). The pic of yours is an H beam.
I'm glad you're on your way to getting it back together. The MGP or GRP are good rods and I especially like the serrated parting surface.
Here is the picture
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Originally Posted by camaroandreas
Correct for what? I read plugs every pull and can post picture of them here.
This was your email to me:

SV: pushrodMonday, May 28, 2012 3:43 AM
From: "Andreas Artursson / PPF AB" <aa@pure-pf.com>View contact details
To: AES Racing
All sleeves sank in the block and blew the gasket. Which sparkplugs did you modify the head for? I used NGK R5671A and they are 5mm to far up so they don´t even reach the combustion chamber.
Just an observation

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My question is: Why would a sleeve move? This should absolutely never happen... ever. Considering the process to install them, the fact that they moved makes me think something is terribly wrong with their installation.
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Just wondering why you would say that it hydrolocked when it appears there is no water on the deck of this motor? Only way would be to pour methanol right into the runners. really dont give a **** if the sleeves dropped or not there is no water getting in that motor and the rods bending is simply an improper application
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sorry to hear about this AA. hope its back out soon breaking your own records.

my opinion on this matter is " its a bad day when a vendor pisses off the owner of the worlds fastest lsx"
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Originally Posted by Adam Connell
My question is: Why would a sleeve move? This should absolutely never happen... ever. Considering the process to install them, the fact that they moved makes me think something is terribly wrong with their installation.
Its does happen, world has a tech bulletin for the issue.

http://www.worldcastings.com/product...f_file-129.pdf

Initially we installed torque plates, gaskets, studs, on the block put it in an oven for an hour at 160ºF

Then we decked the block.

Later on we installed torque plates again to fill the block, at this stage the sleeves didn't move.

Then we torque plate honed the block, it had torque plates on it 3 times and was heat cycled.

Andreas uses a Pyramid ring that sandwiches itself between the sleeve and cylinder head, it worked great on the iron LSX block, doesn't look like the warhawk sleeves liked it.
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Originally Posted by camaroandreas
i´m the tuner of the worlds fastest lsx you are not.

lmao
Old 06-08-2012, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Connell
My question is: Why would a sleeve move? This should absolutely never happen... ever. Considering the process to install them, the fact that they moved makes me think something is terribly wrong with their installation.
World thinks it was not done right. Maybe they they did'nt press them down? Same as the flow sheet on the heads. I have asked several times but have never seen any flow sheet on the hand porting.

I hope all this help you when you choose engine builder. There are many out there. And hopefully you choose someone that does'nt attack you on forums when they have sold you the wrong parts.


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