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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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That's really good, what turbo?
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Im so limited with space, that thing is probably alot bigger than my compact comp turbo. Comp said they have a 1.52 ar housing I could try. I wish they could fit a larger turbine wheel I there.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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You need a bigger turbine. Going to a 1.52 ar isn't worth it and you'll see small small gains in hp and a small drop in bp.
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 02:09 AM
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Precision have a range of cea turbines that Flow better for any given size, or you could maybe have the turbine wheel clipped. Larger housings aren't the only option.
I think the turbine wheels used in Garretts billets also flow better than old wheels.

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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Just got my 60 psi boost gauge so ill have some more accurate results tomorrow
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by skinnies
Any idea on actual power numbers? Awhile back I talked with comp on that turbo, they claimed it'd do over 1000rwhp on a 347 ls motor(thru an auto), but I just don't see it happening.
The billet version maybe. With a different turbine setup on it.
The OP already proved the 79mm turbine billet compressor combo won't work on a 370. Comp exchanged it for this one.

Comp spec'd a 1.15 on an 8079 would work for me on a 347 for 1khp.
I ended up finding a 6.0 30 miles from me so I couldn't pass it up.
Based on the OP's numbers, I'm going to sell my 8079 due to BPR.

Based on the BP number the OP has seen, it looks like about how a 76HPSH would run on a 355. Just a little more power.
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bmech211
In my opinion you should've measured back pressure downstream (at the downpipe), to get a better overall view of how effecient the turbo/exhaust system is as a whole. High pressures upstream is not as detrimental to performance as it is downstream. In fact higher pressures in the header helps turbo performance more than it hurts. Look at what a quick spool valve does and how much higher it raises perssure, yet improves spool-up.
Ideally, you want to see 0 backpressure in the DP. Backpressure in the DP would slow spool, limit max boost pressure and create additional pressure ratio in the hot pipe. But that said, backpressure ratio is measured as close to the exh housing as possible (the way the OP did it).
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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Turbo s10, so what turbo are you going to with? Also keep in mind before you sell it. Not many test bpr and post results. If your in need of a small frame turbo due to space limits you don't have many options that are going to have less bpr.
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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I bought a GT4788r -
71 Nova- not worried about cutting anything, I'll make it fit.

I could have went and got a 5.3 and made it a 5.7. Probably should have....
But money wise it will be a wash since the GT after selling the 8079 will end up costing me about what a 5.3 would.

I think the 8079 is perfect for a 5.3 w/ported heads. If my overtime hadn't dried up I would have tested it just to see....I need to sell the 8079 before curiosity gets the better of me and I stick it underneath the jimmy! I already need to cut the exhaust a part and want a different muffler...

jmop- but I like your cam as a 236/232. It's what I plan on running.
LS1Curt has one in his S88 370 build. I'm basically copying 98Z28Cobrakillers' build.

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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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Ok got my brand new boost gauge in that goes to 60psi and did some high way testing. Looks like it 2:1 at every boost level. Intake pressure: exhaust

9.5:20
14.6:30
17.6 35
19.3:38

Id say thats pretty normal for a t4 turbo on a 370 with ported heads and a cam.

Any one else have results?
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Is your bp sensor before or after the wastegate?
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Also what's the lowest boost you can run?
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Its before the waste gate, I can run 8psi on a 10.5lbs spring. Haven't tried a lower spring
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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What's the bp at 8 lbs boost?
What the most boost you plan on running?
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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Not sure on 8 but id imagine about 16. I plan on running 19psi max,so 38lbs bp
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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i have bungs in my headers but not at the turbo merge. if i measure backpressure at the collector at the header will the results be any good? id like to measure, but dont wanna hack into my cross over just to test as it runs good, im just curious. so basically anyone measure at the collector area and compare to right before the turbo?
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SPRAYED 01
Not sure on 8 but id imagine about 16. I plan on running 19psi max,so 38lbs bp

It doesn't work like that. Turbine can only flow so much before it breaks 1:1 barrier, after that, the turbine inlet pressure rises faster than your boost level. And why plan for a 1:2 ratio, get the correct turbo.

But Got-A-LS1 it doesn't matter if its before or after waste gate, Exhaust Manifold pressure is measured at the turbine inlet.

This is where they should be ideally. Only using 2 due to divided housing.

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 03:45 AM
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Pressure can be monitored anywhere between the turbine and the exhaust valve. Pressure throughout the actual tubes wont vary that much.

2:1 certainly isnt great, but again if it's a fast spooling setup I wouldnt be too concerned. If however it is still quite slow to spool then it's just a bad setup.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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Turbociv, what is your setup and back pressure results. If I could fit a larger turbo I would,i have no space at all.
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