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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Default boost controller?? whats everyone using?

For a lsx pcm and the use a of ltx engine and 24x system. Im using a lsx pcm and need to know what controller to use and what else is needed.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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I'm running an eboost 2. I don't think it'll matter your PCM or which reluctor you have as the boost controller is a "standalone" type system if I'm not mistaken.

Eboost 2
AMS 500
AMS 1000
Manual boost controller
All of these would be options for you. I wouldn't recommend a AMS1000 purely because of cost UNLESS you are seriously drag racing this car
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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I am using the Blox MBC for now.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 11:09 AM
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Hallman Pro MBC
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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So with all the electronic boost controllers, do you have to have like a nitrogen source to control the boost? I've seen some kits that use nitrogen or carbon dioxide to hold the wastegate closed.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 91sonomast
So with all the electronic boost controllers, do you have to have like a nitrogen source to control the boost? I've seen some kits that use nitrogen or carbon dioxide to hold the wastegate closed.
Ummm, I've never heard that before. Most EBC (electronic boost controller) use a boost solenoid that controls the wastegate. You have one port that goes to a pressure source and the other port for "both" ports on the wastegate. Then you have another line from the controller that goes to the vaccum source. That's how that works. Then you adjust the gauge/computer thus making changes to the solenoid.

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We use the AMS1000, it is the best out there. However, it aint cheap by any means. Before that we used a Halman MBC with ceramic ball that worked just fine.

You do not NEED CO2 with an EBC, but on some (like the AMS1000) it gives you much more control. We can have a 3psi spring in the watsegate, but still run as much boost as the turbo will make. With the CO2 its controllable to within 1/10 of a psi, which is very important when making big HP on small tires with stock style suspension.


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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryans99ls1
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This.

I bring one of these with me when I tune - for all the imports that show up to regulate a 30 psi setup with a shitty ebay boost controller.

Not as fancy as the electronic ones, but possibly the most reliable/accurate boost controller that I've seen.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Ams 1000!
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet_SS
Ummm, I've never heard that before. Most EBC (electronic boost controller) use a boost solenoid that controls the wastegate. You have one port that goes to a pressure source and the other port for "both" ports on the wastegate. Then you have another line from the controller that goes to the vaccum source. That's how that works. Then you adjust the gauge/computer thus making changes to the solenoid.
So what do you use as a pressure source?
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+1 for Eboost2...
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 91sonomast
So what do you use as a pressure source?
Since we have to "T" off the brake booster, I would use an available port off my vacuum distribution block. In my old car (Talon) I "T" off from my fuel pressure line...connected to a port on the back of the intake manifold.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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i use a GFB G-FORCE Electronic Boost Controller
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it has all the fetures as the exspencive one but only cost $250

can hold 50 psi
ajustable by gear or time.

High Boost Capability: controls boost up to 50psi (3.5bar)
-Open or Closed Loop Operation: prevents boost variations that can occur in different gears,RPMranges and atmospheric conditions
-6 Inidvidual Boost Pre-Sets: program a different boost pressure and rise rate for each gear, and select on-the-fly
-Scramble Boost Function with Included Aux Remote: program a timed boost increase when needed, remote button activatated!
-Spike-Stop Feature: helps tame boost spiking on turbocharger systems prone to spiking
-Real-Time Boost Gauge: display real-time boost in PSI, KpA or Bar
-Overboost Warning System: user adjustable warning to indicate if the boost pressure is too high.
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Originally Posted by NoGo
This.

I bring one of these with me when I tune - for all the imports that show up to regulate a 30 psi setup with a shitty ebay boost controller.

Not as fancy as the electronic ones, but possibly the most reliable/accurate boost controller that I've seen.
It is a ball and spring boost controller. The only difference between the hallman and the 14 ebay special I use is the fancy anodizing that you pay an additional 80 for
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 12:08 AM
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HDI from ebay, plain Jane boost controller with 2 stages for cheap, 150 shipped. Guys have run them for 2+ years with no issues.

Running one on my TTV.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 12:34 AM
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I also run the Hallman MBC as well, also had them on a few other cars as well....
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 02:15 AM
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Eboost street. Didn't want a round gauge.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Anchor
Eboost street. Didn't want a round gauge.
Same here, didnt see the need for boost by gear so paying half the price for the eboost street fit the bill. Very very impressed with how well it works compared to my turboxs manual controller.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 71 chevy
It is a ball and spring boost controller. The only difference between the hallman and the 14 ebay special I use is the fancy anodizing that you pay an additional 80 for
The hallman also has a neat symbol on the top of the **** - worth an additional $20.

Everyone loves their ebay special up until it needs to be swapped due to a raging boost spike or poaching of the low end.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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All mbcs are the same. They can all be made for under 5$ in parts from home depot. Id get a ebc. I went with the eboost2 so i could have boost by gear.
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