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Old 05-12-2012, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by venom ws7
WOW those are sick numbers through stalled auto with 9" Congrats.
Let's some low 9s or maybe some 8s
I would love to see some 8's but I think we will have to put the car on a diet first it weighs 3750 with me in it. thanks jeff
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More and more, I see people staying in the 10.0+ compression ratio for centri blowers. I think with better tuning these days, as well as better tuning of meoh/water systems, the power potential is pretty good. Are there any turbo's making almost 1000hp on 16psi on a 370ci motor? I'm not sure.
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Does 'Pump Gas' really count if your using Methanol with it?
And "66mm wastegate" on a centri? How is this setup working?

Some very strong numbers. Congratulations.

What is your Dynamic Compression?
Which crank diameter blower pulley do you have?
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
More and more, I see people staying in the 10.0+ compression ratio for centri blowers. I think with better tuning these days, as well as better tuning of meoh/water systems, the power potential is pretty good. Are there any turbo's making almost 1000hp on 16psi on a 370ci motor? I'm not sure.
Good question I dont know either. thanks jeff
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Originally Posted by vmapper
Does 'Pump Gas' really count if your using Methanol with it?
And "66mm wastegate" on a centri? How is this setup working?

Some very strong numbers. Congratulations.

What is your Dynamic Compression?
Which crank diameter blower pulley do you have?
Well guess its still pump gas and for the info on the wastegate heres the link https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...ower-cars.html and im running a 7.65 crank pulley and i have no idea what the dynamic compression is sorry. thanks jeff
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Now u have me thinking of how to raise the compression on mine haha.
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Originally Posted by vmapper
Does 'Pump Gas' really count if your using Methanol with it?
And "66mm wastegate" on a centri? How is this setup working?

Some very strong numbers. Congratulations.

What is your Dynamic Compression?
Which crank diameter blower pulley do you have?
Oh to answer your question the wastegate and AMS boost controller works great I can set it to run on any boost level that the blower will make or just set it to run on 4psi to run on the street. But the nice thing about this setup is that I can launch on lower boost and ramp the boost in when and where I want it for the track. the only thing I will change about it is Ill be using co2 to keep the gate closed rather than boost. thanks jeff
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Originally Posted by LS1RedZ
Now u have me thinking of how to raise the compression on mine haha.
What is yout c/r now?
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It's 9.1:1 right now.

I've got a 370
TEA stg 2 ls6 heads
Epp cam. 232/240
Ls6 intake/ stock TB
Pacesetter 1 3/4
TH400
I'm about to pick up some bigger headers but idk which ones I want yet. I'd be happy with 800 through the th400.
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Originally Posted by LS1RedZ
It's 9.1:1 right now.

I've got a 370
TEA stg 2 ls6 heads
Epp cam. 232/240
Ls6 intake/ stock TB
Pacesetter 1 3/4
TH400
I'm about to pick up some bigger headers but idk which ones I want yet. I'd be happy with 800 through the th400.
I went with Kooks 1 7/8 and Kooks 3 inch true duals and yeah its freaking loud. I have a video of one of the pulls .thanks jeff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h-fi30aFRw
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Nice numbers! Glad to see a fellow NC member here lol. Would love to see some videos of it running on the street!
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nice job
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Thanks guys and I will be posting up some street vids shortly. With my tag saying UCANTWIN theres always someone who wants to try. jeff
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Originally Posted by supersick99z
Nice numbers! Glad to see a fellow NC member here lol. Would love to see some videos of it running on the street!
Where in NC are you?
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Originally Posted by LS1RedZ
It's 9.1:1 right now.

I've got a 370
TEA stg 2 ls6 heads
Epp cam. 232/240
Ls6 intake/ stock TB
Pacesetter 1 3/4
TH400
I'm about to pick up some bigger headers but idk which ones I want yet. I'd be happy with 800 through the th400.
it depends really.

Sticking with the slightly lower CR will only cost a small amount of power. But it will allow you a perfectly safe tune for pump fuel only. And lets face it, on the street you'll be able to make more than enough power on that given traction levels available.

Opting for high compression will mean water/meth must be used all the time. Yes it will make more power...but is it always needed or wanted ?
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
it depends really.

Sticking with the slightly lower CR will only cost a small amount of power. But it will allow you a perfectly safe tune for pump fuel only. And lets face it, on the street you'll be able to make more than enough power on that given traction levels available.

Opting for high compression will mean water/meth must be used all the time. Yes it will make more power...but is it always needed or wanted ?
Slightly lower is one thing, but he's at 10.7:1 and a lot of people reccomend going 9.0:1, that's almost 2 points lower. In an n/a application, isn't it widely accepted that each full point is worth a certain percentage of power? I'm not sure what it's worth in a FI setup, but I see a lot of factory 4th gen motors making north of 650 rwhp with heavy drivetrains/big wheels with relatively low boost levels that are in the 8-12psi range. I know they are larger cubes from the factory, but they are also north of 10.5:1 compression as well.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
it depends really.

Sticking with the slightly lower CR will only cost a small amount of power. But it will allow you a perfectly safe tune for pump fuel only. And lets face it, on the street you'll be able to make more than enough power on that given traction levels available.

Opting for high compression will mean water/meth must be used all the time. Yes it will make more power...but is it always needed or wanted ?
You are right unless you could run lower boost on the street Thats why Im running the Boost controller and the wastegate so Im not having to fill the meth up everytime I stop for gas. jeff
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Slightly lower is one thing, but he's at 10.7:1 and a lot of people reccomend going 9.0:1, that's almost 2 points lower. In an n/a application, isn't it widely accepted that each full point is worth a certain percentage of power? I'm not sure what it's worth in a FI setup, but I see a lot of factory 4th gen motors making north of 650 rwhp with heavy drivetrains/big wheels with relatively low boost levels that are in the 8-12psi range. I know they are larger cubes from the factory, but they are also north of 10.5:1 compression as well.
Again, doing it with methanol or race fuel for short periods is not the same.

If you intend to push hard on pump fuel only, there are few downsides to running a slightly lower CR. It will give you a much wider and safer tuning window to make the power, for only a very small trade off in performance.

It's just a balancing act as to how much safety you want built in

Obviously if you're happy running water/meth all the time, or race fuel etc, then you may as well opt for the higher CR.
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Originally Posted by stngtamr29
Where in NC are you?
Greensboro
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Again, doing it with methanol or race fuel for short periods is not the same.

If you intend to push hard on pump fuel only, there are few downsides to running a slightly lower CR. It will give you a much wider and safer tuning window to make the power, for only a very small trade off in performance.

It's just a balancing act as to how much safety you want built in

Obviously if you're happy running water/meth all the time, or race fuel etc, then you may as well opt for the higher CR.
I dont have to run it all the time I keep my boost level down on the street and the meth is not activated until 4psi


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