Help - Not showing boost
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Im running an LT1 with a procharger D1, pullied for around 5psi at 5500 rpm. To monitor pressure I'm running an AEM digital boost gauge, max 30psi display.
My problem is this - The gauge will show vacuum, but when I lay into it the best I get out of it is 0 boost/vacuum, it never begins to climb past that. With this setup, when should I be seeing boost? Some people are telling me I wont see any until I.m close to 5k rpm due to the pulley setup, and others saying i should see it start to climb as soon as I hit the throttle.
Now this may seem retarded, but should I be able to "manually" check the gauge, say by blowing into the hose? If i suck through the hose, i can get it to show vacuum, but no pressure.
The hose is attached to a T fitting off the intake manifold, shared with the bov, with no check valve in line with it.
Suggestions/criticism/anything strongly appreciated.
My problem is this - The gauge will show vacuum, but when I lay into it the best I get out of it is 0 boost/vacuum, it never begins to climb past that. With this setup, when should I be seeing boost? Some people are telling me I wont see any until I.m close to 5k rpm due to the pulley setup, and others saying i should see it start to climb as soon as I hit the throttle.
Now this may seem retarded, but should I be able to "manually" check the gauge, say by blowing into the hose? If i suck through the hose, i can get it to show vacuum, but no pressure.
The hose is attached to a T fitting off the intake manifold, shared with the bov, with no check valve in line with it.
Suggestions/criticism/anything strongly appreciated.
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I am not familiar with SC setups, but you need to check for boost leaks. Sounds like that is your issue. Also, the BOV should have its own supply of vacuum...don't share. I agree with the others, boost should start to climb as soon as you hit the throttle.
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Make sure your bypass (or correctly hooked up BOV) valve is closing
Are you noticing the boost?
Are you able to log?
You would see some amount of boost at WOT at most rpm range. Im guessing a D-1SC? would definitely see something even at 3000.
Are you noticing the boost?
Are you able to log?
You would see some amount of boost at WOT at most rpm range. Im guessing a D-1SC? would definitely see something even at 3000.
Last edited by vmapper; 05-26-2012 at 01:09 PM.
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SweetSS - I believe on the manifold I only have 1 spare vacuum port, one goes to the brake booster, and one goes to....I cant remember. If i had a vacuum manifold off of the one spare one, wouldnt that be the same as having a T fitting, or would that be a better option?
vmapper - The BOV is fully closed when its off of the car, seems to be making a complete seal. When the car is running, its fully open. When I give the car throttle while driving the car no longer sounds like its letting air out through the BOV and when i push the clutch in to shift I hear the loud "whoosh" of air being released, so I assume its working correctly? Any other way to test?
As for noticing boost, I dont have much to compare it to so im not 100% sure what id be feeling for. I am running the stock computer and can log with TTS datamaster.
Its a D1 (non self contained, so it should have a higher step up ratio than a D1SC)
1BADAZZSS - Thank you, I will try that
vmapper - The BOV is fully closed when its off of the car, seems to be making a complete seal. When the car is running, its fully open. When I give the car throttle while driving the car no longer sounds like its letting air out through the BOV and when i push the clutch in to shift I hear the loud "whoosh" of air being released, so I assume its working correctly? Any other way to test?
As for noticing boost, I dont have much to compare it to so im not 100% sure what id be feeling for. I am running the stock computer and can log with TTS datamaster.
Its a D1 (non self contained, so it should have a higher step up ratio than a D1SC)
1BADAZZSS - Thank you, I will try that
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I would think your boost gauge is not working, as you hear the boost being relieved. Bob
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Update - I hooked my air compressor up the the boost gauge and was able to verify that it would read pressurized air, from 30 all the way down to 1 psi.
So is my next step searching for boost leaks? Is there any good way to do this?
Can i take the vacuum hose off the BOV, therefor closing the valve, start the car and see if its running on less vacuum at idle, or am i just asking for trouble with that.
Im really at a loss for ideas.
So is my next step searching for boost leaks? Is there any good way to do this?
Can i take the vacuum hose off the BOV, therefor closing the valve, start the car and see if its running on less vacuum at idle, or am i just asking for trouble with that.
Im really at a loss for ideas.
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Update - I hooked my air compressor up the the boost gauge and was able to verify that it would read pressurized air, from 30 all the way down to 1 psi.
So is my next step searching for boost leaks? Is there any good way to do this?
Can i take the vacuum hose off the BOV, therefor closing the valve, start the car and see if its running on less vacuum at idle, or am i just asking for trouble with that.
Im really at a loss for ideas.
So is my next step searching for boost leaks? Is there any good way to do this?
Can i take the vacuum hose off the BOV, therefor closing the valve, start the car and see if its running on less vacuum at idle, or am i just asking for trouble with that.
Im really at a loss for ideas.
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If the rotation is wrong it won't be sucking air. Running the blower without the outlet tubing connected should produce a very healthy amount of air, if the rotation is correct. Bob
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So i just watched this video:
With that said, even at 5psi shouldnt i come into boost by 3-4k? Im at a loss here as to what is wrong with it.
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It does, i managed to sweep my street with it when it blew a charge pipe off.
So i just watched this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTIh0fpvspw
And his boost seems to ramp in right at 2k rpm? And hes only making 7psi.
With that said, even at 5psi shouldnt i come into boost by 3-4k? Im at a loss here as to what is wrong with it.
So i just watched this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTIh0fpvspw
And his boost seems to ramp in right at 2k rpm? And hes only making 7psi.
With that said, even at 5psi shouldnt i come into boost by 3-4k? Im at a loss here as to what is wrong with it.
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Sounds like your bypass valve may be sticking. Bob
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