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Old 09-06-2012, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by josepy121380
That is what I thought. Something doesn't seem right. The car read 281kpa through hp tuners. Is there a way anything could be wrong with what it read?
Considering you're only filling 347 cubic inches vs. most people running F1's are filling bigger cube motors. What exhaust is on the car?

I could see it being the case. Think of it this way, during a 'burnout' the rpms rise very quickly, and so does the boost thanks to boost being directly related to engine rpm. But exhaust is like a liquid, and since nothing is pushing or pulling it out, it gets stacked up. So I can beleive that the boost went that high.
Try this, try to do a pull without lighting up the tires. It might be tough on the street considering speeds, but on a dyno, you should be able to spin up 4th gear without spinning and see realistic numbers.

Just a theory, I might be off base, hopefully someone else can chime in.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Considering you're only filling 347 cubic inches vs. most people running F1's are filling bigger cube motors. What exhaust is on the car?

I could see it being the case. Think of it this way, during a 'burnout' the rpms rise very quickly, and so does the boost thanks to boost being directly related to engine rpm. But exhaust is like a liquid, and since nothing is pushing or pulling it out, it gets stacked up. So I can beleive that the boost went that high.
Try this, try to do a pull without lighting up the tires. It might be tough on the street considering speeds, but on a dyno, you should be able to spin up 4th gear without spinning and see realistic numbers.

Just a theory, I might be off base, hopefully someone else can chime in.
Lt's ory and hooker cb. He did a pull this morning and watch the gauge and it hit 14lbs.

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I would think the MAP sensor is wrong or the wrong OS was installed in the PCM pr maybe even both and he is using a PID with a 3 bar map when he should be using a 2 Bar
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Just looks odd to me that the log is showing 7~psi at 50% throttle also
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Originally Posted by dschmittie1
I would think the MAP sensor is wrong or the wrong OS was installed in the PCM pr maybe even both and he is using a PID with a 3 bar map when he should be using a 2 Bar
If it was a 2 bar it would not read over 215kpa i am told.
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Yeah he is going over the whole log and the data seems to be wrong. However the car runs great.
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Originally Posted by josepy121380
If it was a 2 bar it would not read over 215kpa i am told.
Yes but if the car has a 2 bar map in it with a 3 bar OS then it would read 280 kpa when it was actually around 195kpa
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Originally Posted by dschmittie1
Yes but if the car has a 2 bar map in it with a 3 bar OS then it would read 280 kpa when it was actually around 195kpa
Good info. It will be checked again. He also thinks he found a issue. I will keep it updated.
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Originally Posted by dschmittie1
Yes but if the car has a 2 bar map in it with a 3 bar OS then it would read 280 kpa when it was actually around 195kpa
Exactly. I had a similar issue when I installed my 2-bar map, and I had a 2-bar OS, but my data logger wasn't setup correctly and the PID was still for a 1-bar map sensor. I couldn't figure out why I wasn't seeing any more than 105kpa, even though I KNEW it was making a lot more boost than that as I could hear the blow off valve releasing the pressure as soon as I lifted.
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Its fixed. He is retuning it tonight. Not sure what it was but sounded simple.
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Originally Posted by josepy121380
Its fixed. He is retuning it tonight. Not sure what it was but sounded simple.
Looking at the picture you posted again, it has the 3-bar MAP PID for HPTuners, do you have a 3-bar MAP and OS in the car?
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Looking at the picture you posted again, it has the 3-bar MAP PID for HPTuners, do you have a 3-bar MAP and OS in the car?
yes and yes
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Great thread for a great Bird there.
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updates!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
updates!!!!!!!!!!!
the car has been street tuned and runs and pulls like a ************. 14 degrees timing. i thought it was quick with the d1 on it. this was a whole new experience. going to the dyno tomorrow night.
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Just my luck. Dyno was hit by lighting and what not this morning. DYno is toast and mustang dyno is bringing out a new one. Wideband setup and the computer all toast. Looks like i wait longer for numbers.
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WTF?! lol
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Originally Posted by blue00ZZleeper
WTF?! lol
lol agreed
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At least your car wasn't on the dyno when it happened.
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I've heard some crazy stuff in my days...Did the building get hit and surge the electrical system or the dyno itself?! Hopefully you can get it on the rollers soon!


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