1969 Chevelle 5.3 Twin Turbo TNT Results
#21
i would raise the 2 step to about 4200, then sit on the tb till it gets over the hump. the first 3 psi are slow, then once you get past say 5 psi, it will quickly build boost and climb in rpm.
next time you go out, try being on the tb for up to 5 secs just to see how much boost it builds.
btw,118 mph should be a 5 sec pass.
next time you go out, try being on the tb for up to 5 secs just to see how much boost it builds.
btw,118 mph should be a 5 sec pass.
#22
I don't have to guestimate...lol I have had the car 4 corner scaled. It weighs 3870lbs with me in it and a full tank of fuel. This is 100 percent street car and daily driven. It has full interior, stock suspension, small tire, sound deadner, full exhaust, and a bad *** sound system complete with a subwoofer and amp in the trunk.
#24
Before I do anymore tuning I am going to drive it to St. Louis on Wednesday to run the 1/4 mile before I blow it up. lol Any ideas what you think it will run? I have no idea because of the slow 1/8th mile time and the high *** mph. Surely it will run a 9 second time slip.
#26
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You are making some steam, with 118@3800 lbs
But are you going to make it all the way down the 1/4 with the 3.90 gears.
The 118 in the 8th should be 148+ in the quarter.
But are you going to make it all the way down the 1/4 with the 3.90 gears.
The 118 in the 8th should be 148+ in the quarter.
#29
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I did the math on my setup and my 3.73's and 28" tire with 12% converter slip 7k rpm limit is good for 132mph so im thinking you wont make a full 1/4mile pass on on 3.90's if you are in fact on a 28" tire. youll need something more like a 3.30 gear or so.
#30
I run a 275 hoosier drag radial...hmmm. My rev limiter is set for 6800, I could bump that to 7k but I would be afraid to go any higher. I could try and borrow a set of 30" slicks if I knew somebody....damn.
#31
it will sound something like this when it starts to make the steam and get over that hump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_XkKhsTRRE&feature=plcp
^^^^ good point. if you are running a 28" tall tire you will likely need 7000+ rpm to run the 1/4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_XkKhsTRRE&feature=plcp
^^^^ good point. if you are running a 28" tall tire you will likely need 7000+ rpm to run the 1/4
#33
For an update. I think we have the launch part of the tune figured out. We added more timing and did as was suggested and leaned it out to 12.2 off the brake. On my test with the transbrake it build 7lbs of boost. Didn't get a chance to actually run it hard on the street because it was raining. It sucked too because I had an hour and a half drive home and the rain never let up. If the rest of the tune didn't get screwed up, I should be posting a new best on Friday or Saturday night. Going to hold off on the 1/4 until my 275 drag radials run out and I can get some 295/65's.
Thanks for the input from everyone.
#34
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I have no idea but I know it is the LM7. It was out of a running 2003 totaled out Suburban with 64k miles.
For an update. I think we have the launch part of the tune figured out. We added more timing and did as was suggested and leaned it out to 12.2 off the brake. On my test with the transbrake it build 7lbs of boost. Didn't get a chance to actually run it hard on the street because it was raining. It sucked too because I had an hour and a half drive home and the rain never let up. If the rest of the tune didn't get screwed up, I should be posting a new best on Friday or Saturday night. Going to hold off on the 1/4 until my 275 drag radials run out and I can get some 295/65's.
Thanks for the input from everyone.
For an update. I think we have the launch part of the tune figured out. We added more timing and did as was suggested and leaned it out to 12.2 off the brake. On my test with the transbrake it build 7lbs of boost. Didn't get a chance to actually run it hard on the street because it was raining. It sucked too because I had an hour and a half drive home and the rain never let up. If the rest of the tune didn't get screwed up, I should be posting a new best on Friday or Saturday night. Going to hold off on the 1/4 until my 275 drag radials run out and I can get some 295/65's.
Thanks for the input from everyone.
#35
#36
Here is an update. I added the timing into the area where I am on the transbrake and leaned out the fuel table in that area also. It did help. I was able to get a solid 5lbs of boost but that is it. Even after the launch it still seemed to fall on its face a little. I might have the meth injection kicking on too early in the run. Still I drove it to the track with my 6 year old daughter and 7 year old son and their two friends. Made 3 passes and drove it home. Even in this 90+ degree heat and NO intercooler it still managed a 6.49 @ 116 mph! I'll eventually get it there, but I am thinking if the convertor was about 400 rpms looser it would do much better without killing the pass.
I also ran 1lb of less boost tonight. Figured there was no reason to stress the engine all out until I can get the launch much improved.
I also ran 1lb of less boost tonight. Figured there was no reason to stress the engine all out until I can get the launch much improved.
#37
Now this is just something to think about. From what I have come to notice. Is that guys running 3.73 and lower have problems building boost. Some of the problem could be is your not loading the motor down. I run 3.23's and have had no problems building boost. Couple of friends of mine had same issue and went to 3.42 I think they are and did alot better.
#38
Now this is just something to think about. From what I have come to notice. Is that guys running 3.73 and lower have problems building boost. Some of the problem could be is your not loading the motor down. I run 3.23's and have had no problems building boost. Couple of friends of mine had same issue and went to 3.42 I think they are and did alot better.
#39
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the gears might not be optimal, but on the transbrake, the engine does not know what gear is in the rear.
congrats on a new best. i see everything is getting more efficient.
couple of questions.
1. launch rpm
2.afr
3. timing
4. did it hit the 2 step
5. how much time on the tranbrake?
6. did it get over the hump?
7. what are the cam specs again?
its definitely getting better. again, that mph is a 5 sec pass if the 60 were right. and thats a heavy *** street car with a stereo system.
congrats on a new best. i see everything is getting more efficient.
couple of questions.
1. launch rpm
2.afr
3. timing
4. did it hit the 2 step
5. how much time on the tranbrake?
6. did it get over the hump?
7. what are the cam specs again?
its definitely getting better. again, that mph is a 5 sec pass if the 60 were right. and thats a heavy *** street car with a stereo system.
#40
Are you sitting there kind of holding it on the t-brake and watching it sit at 5 wanting it to go higher? I ask this because you want the turbo accelerating on launch. Lets say you are only getting 5psi on the brake, dont hit 5 and hold it there for a second or two. Get boost climbing and let it go just before 5. Boost climbing on launch really helps.
Meth to early will hurt for sure. This will tie into making you to rich. Especially if its an all off or all on system. Enough meth for rev'd up /spooled up is going to really hurt you trying to get there if it comes on to early.
any freaking tiny *** exhaust leak before the turbos will hurt you BAD.
With a pair of 62's clamped down to 12 psi total your waste gates are probably cracking open on the t-brake. I would probably bet a small amount of money on this one. Thats the same as an exhaust leak, see above. I have no idea for sure what a guy does on the cheap to fix this when you are clamped down to only 12psi. I ran counter pressure to my wastegates with a dail-a-boost set up. Its like a $30 aquarium regulator and u regulate a certain amount of boost pressure to the top of you wastegate diaphragm (<-spell check says that right). This sends boost to the wastegates to keep them shut. Are you running one of these? if not I could explain it more for you.
You probably wouldnt want to mess with this one but what intake centerline is your cam installed at? advancing a cam on a turbo car can help build boost better.
You probably dont want to do this either but a single fogger nozzle jetted for 50hp in your up pipe a few inches before your throttle will straight up bitch slap your turbos into getting off their asses. Its cheap as hell set up and a simple hobbs switch to kill it a few pounds short of set boost level works great and a bottle lasts a long time.
Raising launch rpm, higher stalls ect can really help mask over some stuff. It just plain works. The motor spinning at a higher rpm just isnt as picky or sensitive to some of this stuff.
Meth to early will hurt for sure. This will tie into making you to rich. Especially if its an all off or all on system. Enough meth for rev'd up /spooled up is going to really hurt you trying to get there if it comes on to early.
any freaking tiny *** exhaust leak before the turbos will hurt you BAD.
With a pair of 62's clamped down to 12 psi total your waste gates are probably cracking open on the t-brake. I would probably bet a small amount of money on this one. Thats the same as an exhaust leak, see above. I have no idea for sure what a guy does on the cheap to fix this when you are clamped down to only 12psi. I ran counter pressure to my wastegates with a dail-a-boost set up. Its like a $30 aquarium regulator and u regulate a certain amount of boost pressure to the top of you wastegate diaphragm (<-spell check says that right). This sends boost to the wastegates to keep them shut. Are you running one of these? if not I could explain it more for you.
You probably wouldnt want to mess with this one but what intake centerline is your cam installed at? advancing a cam on a turbo car can help build boost better.
You probably dont want to do this either but a single fogger nozzle jetted for 50hp in your up pipe a few inches before your throttle will straight up bitch slap your turbos into getting off their asses. Its cheap as hell set up and a simple hobbs switch to kill it a few pounds short of set boost level works great and a bottle lasts a long time.
Raising launch rpm, higher stalls ect can really help mask over some stuff. It just plain works. The motor spinning at a higher rpm just isnt as picky or sensitive to some of this stuff.