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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 08:14 AM
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C6 Z06 forged motor with sts system, we have checked over all pipes and everything is solid. The wastegates have 10# springs, but the car only hits 7psi and then by 6500rpm it has dropped to 5.5 or so. But it is very worth noting that when we take the vac lines off the turbos, the turbos spool to 15psi no problem and you can feel the power, so the turbos are definitely not the culprit.

We are not sure if the motor is somehow eating up the boost or what? We have also looked over the wastegates and done some tests and they seem to be fine.

Wondering if anyone has any input?

Wastegate and boost guage reference is right off the manifold.

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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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With the sts twins, you lose a little boost between the piping and fmic. Mine was the same before adding a manual boost controller. About 2 or 3 lbs of loss. With adding a controller, you can just adjust up to the desired boost level. I have my manual split to both waste gates.
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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With the sts twins, you lose a little boost between the piping and fmic. Mine was the same before adding a manual boost controller. About 2 or 3 lbs of loss. With adding a controller, you can just adjust up to the desired boost level. I have my manual split to both waste gates.
Where is your wastegate bottom vac source referenced from? If it is from the manifold, you shouldnt see a boost drop, but if it is off the turbo you will.

But none of this explains how it goes from 7psi at 3500rpm and ramps down to 5.5psi by 6500.

Did/does yours do that? Bleed off?
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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Yes, mine is referenced off the turbo. I run 15 psi and I do see it drop a pound or so at high rpm. I don't feel any difference when it does. That's about shift time anyway. I can see it being much more noticeable at lower boost levels.
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Not to say you don't have an underlying problem, I would at least throw a manual controller on it to narrow down the problem. Maybe someone else can chime in.
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The cam and springs could be the culprit. I have a custom ground boost cam and comp springs. When I had an sts camaro, I had a 10# spring and stock internals. Boost would max out around 8.5-9 psi. It was non intercooled, so I imagine I'd have lost another lb with the additional piping.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 01:28 AM
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Im not real familiar with boost drop associated with rear mount setups, but electronic boost controllers like the eboost street or eboost 2 have boost drop compensation that will fix exactly what your describing.
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Originally Posted by mconway68w
The cam and springs could be the culprit. I have a custom ground boost cam and comp springs. When I had an sts camaro, I had a 10# spring and stock internals. Boost would max out around 8.5-9 psi. It was non intercooled, so I imagine I'd have lost another lb with the additional piping.
Yes the motor may be the culprit, but in your case, was the boost dropping as rpm went up? For me the boost hits 7.5psi for 1000rpm then by 5000rpm starts to drop steadily until at 6500 it is about 5.5psi.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SSnakekiller
Where is your wastegate bottom vac source referenced from? If it is from the manifold, you shouldnt see a boost drop, but if it is off the turbo you will.

But none of this explains how it goes from 7psi at 3500rpm and ramps down to 5.5psi by 6500.

Did/does yours do that? Bleed off?
The PSI drop sounds like a leak to me.... HAve you checked your BOV if equipped? Even with an STS kit, turbos don't bleed off power unless there is a leak (possible intake manifold) or mechanicl problem (valve springs). How was the setup running before? How much power are you making right now? Exhaust leaks can also cause this.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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similar problem happened to me check your air filter and seem if its clogged i know on my sts kit the filter is in the rear fender well if yours is as well check for tire rubber my filter crimped close due to it cosing me to loose boost
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What are your cam specs?
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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^ this
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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My 08 z06 had same problem ,would only get to 10 psi even with boost pressure piped to top of waste gates , Did a back pressure test and had over 20 psi of back pressure the motor was also forged bottom , piping resturections and motor eating pound of air yoou feed it , I move my turbos to right off manifold an now get 23pis if i need it . Have a small vid of the boost and back pressure , new here do not know how to link it .
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