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Old 06-30-2012, 08:31 PM
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Default Aps TT running hot any fix for this?

I have the a/c out and It has been in the high 90`s but my car has been running in the 204-215 range. Id like too cool this biatch down a bit. Anyone else have simular issues and how did you fix? I run about 187 on a 70 degree day

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From what I've seen. The intercooler placement is too close to the radiator to give a good supply of fresh air or air that hasn't already been heated by the intercooler etc... So while I don't own an F-body APS kit I have worked on them a time or two and it was always a point of concern from me and the owners always spoke of their cars running on the hot side etc... I would try to space the intercooler more forward to allow more air to come between the IC and the radiator as much as possible. GL!
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So the a/c condenser is out too?
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Originally Posted by 2000RATA
So the a/c condenser is out too?
yea i pulled that out too.
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Yeah but the IC still blocks most of the opening where the fresh air comes in etc...
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Is there enough space for an electric fan?
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It completely blocks all of the air. All of the air has to go through it before hitting radiator. It has not over heated and my Iat`s are still good on a hot day but I dont like to run over 200 any time
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Originally Posted by offaxis
It completely blocks all of the air. All of the air has to go through it before hitting radiator. It has not over heated and my Iat`s are still good on a hot day but I dont like to run over 200 any time
Well look again at your brackets holding the IC cause they can be put on backwards. When they are right you will have about an inch more clearance etc... Had that come out on a friends car. Just an easy thing to look at as it fixed everything he had going on heat wise.
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Originally Posted by offaxis
I dont like to run over 200 any time
May I ask why? Your engine actually runs significantly more efficiently while wear is also decreased.

Even though I am an E85 nut, I just don't understand why people are scared of running 200+ If you're running coolant, you wont boil over until you're into the 230+ range. I run a 195 Tstat in my 87 Gn on E85 and I've never seen a smoother running 3.8.

I wouldn't worry about it, especially if you're not running A/C. There is a reason all new cars run well over 200+ from the factory. The engine tolerances are better, engine wear is lower, and the fuel burns more efficiently. Just don't get on it while it's super hot if you're worried about detonation, but that's a given anyways.
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Originally Posted by Adam Connell
May I ask why? Your engine actually runs significantly more efficiently while wear is also decreased.

Even though I am an E85 nut, I just don't understand why people are scared of running 200+ If you're running coolant, you wont boil over until you're into the 230+ range. I run a 195 Tstat in my 87 Gn on E85 and I've never seen a smoother running 3.8.

I wouldn't worry about it, especially if you're not running A/C. There is a reason all new cars run well over 200+ from the factory. The engine tolerances are better, engine wear is lower, and the fuel burns more efficiently. Just don't get on it while it's super hot if you're worried about detonation, but that's a given anyways.
I dont think i will have a problem driving around but I would like the car to run cooler when running 15+ psi. I just got the car starting to work the way I want and would love to hit the track. But at these temps I wont making any passes and Its really early in the season. I could just be over concerned but I figure better safe than blowing a head gastket or worse.
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Originally Posted by Inspector12
Well look again at your brackets holding the IC cause they can be put on backwards. When they are right you will have about an inch more clearance etc... Had that come out on a friends car. Just an easy thing to look at as it fixed everything he had going on heat wise.
I will be checking that out for sure.

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Some people don't choose to do this, but...

I removed my front steel and the styrofoam bumper off of my car. Not only is it weight off the front of the car, but I guess I just took the risk. I don't street drive my car THAT much, so I figure I will just be extra careful on not rear-ending someone.

That combined with cutting out the transam bumper should give you ALOOOOoooot more flow.

I don't have an awesome picture of mine, but this one's ok..... And just so you know, I cut out mine where I can still put the TA cover back on, so if you ever choose to not have a big whole in your front bumper, you don't have too. It's just two screws away from looking stock again.

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Unfortunately it is one of the cons of a twin water cooled turbo kit. Running water through two things attached to your exhaust system ultimately means you WILL have hotter ECTs. We can just try our best to manage them the best we can. You know?
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So unhook water cooled turbos and see if that fixes it??

I deleted my water cooled when I switched to Pte turbos.

It makes sense the hot turbos would push your coolant temp up.
I know DKT has talked about developing an air to water conversion for the fbody aps. Not every one over heats. I know a few people tried becool system and said it helped.
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That is one idea. You can convert the water cooling to oil cooling. I know My99TAWS6 did that.



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