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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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doing a front mount turbo set up, was looking a t getting griffin radiator 1-55241-x and i read some were that some one tapped the flat circle part on there water pump and ran there head coolant line off that and not from the radiator.

has any one done this and if so does this work well with out any issues?
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Plenty of people has done that without issue.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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ight thank you!
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Any concerns due to the fact that the top of the water pump really isnt the highest spot in the cooling system?
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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yep every car i have swapped i just tap the water pump and return the vent to there, left side behind the tensioner, right side strait into the part that goes into the block, hump under the throttle body, no problems
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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Unless it is the highest point, seems a pretty pointless thing to do. Even more so if any pipes leaving the pump run uphill away from the pump so any air can accumulate elsewhere
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Coolant crossover sets at same height as the spot there talking about on the waterpump. Ive tapped mine there and have had no issues!
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADAZZSS
Coolant crossover sets at same height as the spot there talking about on the waterpump. Ive tapped mine there and have had no issues!
The crossover vents serve a different purpose. The main waterways on the block are in a low position, much lower than the steam ports, so air/steam can get trapped in the cylinder heads unless there is an escape port.. And you absolutely do not want trapped air there.

The little raised bit on the pump does nothing and can have no negative impact on the cooling system at all. If any air was to gather there, it wouldnt do any harm or cause any problems.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
The crossover vents serve a different purpose. The main waterways on the block are in a low position, much lower than the steam ports, so air/steam can get trapped in the cylinder heads unless there is an escape port.. And you absolutely do not want trapped air there.

The little raised bit on the pump does nothing and can have no negative impact on the cooling system at all. If any air was to gather there, it wouldnt do any harm or cause any problems.
It does help out that its going from the high pressure side to a lower pressure side of the cooling system.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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The raised part is nothing more than a casting for an alternative outlet position.

All you would be doing is pumping very hot water somewhere else without it getting cooled and for no good reason.

Hot water does get pumped out the steam ports, but that is acceptable because they are a potential air trap somewhere where it would matter.

At the pump bit we're talking about, it doesnt matter a single bit.
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In for opinions also. For my build I'd like to keep it a cleaner look and not have to run a rubber line across to the radiator so if I could avoid that I'd love to but at the same time I want it done the right way so I can push the motor n not have any worrys.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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the water pump housing is where I am putting mine. In all honesty the only other way to get something higher in the cooling system is to cut a hole in the hood and run the vent tank/catch can above the radiator, because the radiator isnt even the highest point, since the front of the car had a downward slope.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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I plan on running the griifin rad 1-55241-x and doing this then, this setup be able to handle 700-800hp?
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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if you do it that way...you have water coming out the steam holes...and water coming out the new tapped hole ...so is the water going to go anywhere....on mine i tapped into the suction side of the waterpump so it draws the water from the rear vents.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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Both of those are still high pressure areas, so I dont see the air being able to go anywhere.

Out of interest...as I'm not US based and I do not have a Camaro. Where do the factory steam vents route to ?

Maybe the layout of the OEM setup is vastly different to anything Ive done before, hence the confusion ?

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Looking at an old parts catalogue, it looks like they route the vent ports into the top of the radiator near the cap.

I guess your cars dont run a separate remote header tank that is higher than everything else like most modern cars ? ( At least virtually every European and Jap operate this way )
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Here is the link were I found the pictures. They have different setups

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=439023
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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i dont understand why ppl go thru all that trouble of making lines when u can just put a ls1 style setup on it.
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the ls1 style setup blocks off the rear ports.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WheelsUp84z
the ls1 style setup blocks off the rear ports.
Ls6 the ls1 has no block offs
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