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Old 01-30-2013, 09:24 PM
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I have a -12 hose coming off the valley cover going to a moroso catch can, thats it. I refuse to vent it back into the inlet. I open it up about once a month and get a couple of drops of oil and thats it.
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oil vapor smell at all Cam72Aro?
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
I have been reading over PCV threads ever since I joined this site. It seems it can be done with research and careful attention to what is going where.

Automagicls1 posted something neat the other day, and also I have read where other people have opted to do this, but I am curious if there are drawbacks to running two passenger side valvecovers and running a breather with a checkvalve in it (Rx makes these)

Also it was suggested that it would be even better to weld in two -10an fittings and just run the lines to a puke tank.

Just wondering if this would have any long term effects on motor I want to take care of any way I can.
PVC stuff is strictly for emmissions
I would run a punk tank with as big of line as you can put on it. Probably -12an. I use 1.25" hoses on my motor. There is no issues with venting the crankcase, short or long term.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
PVC stuff is strictly for emmissions
I would run a punk tank with as big of line as you can put on it. Probably -12an. I use 1.25" hoses on my motor. There is no issues with venting the crankcase, short or long term.
I thought they mostly used it for plumbing...
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for those running an ls6 valley cover and lines from the valve covers to a catch can. are you venting the valley cover? also running it to the can? or plugging it?
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I'll be running a puke tank personally.
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Originally Posted by AutomagicLS1
well you already know my opinion.....btw heres 450-500 miles on the corn with a #10 off each cover to my puke tank. no way in hell i'd run one of those PCV setups. scary because a couple years ago I never really had a good crankcase ventilation setup and to know how much moisture was in my crankcase then. I never get any oil in my tank though which is a good thing!

This is just 500 miles of condensation!!?!?
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I would guess that and some fuel. Had about the same thing come out of a buddies tank the other day and it did smell a little of fuel.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
I'll be running a puke tank personally.
No punk tank for your PVC system
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so to clear it up a little..

So with an LS1 Valle cover..

Run -10an/-12an off each valve cover to a vented catch can for each cover correct? no PCV valve? no breathers on the valve covers?

valve cvr catch can

{::::::}--------------[]


{::::::}--------------[]

no vent line to the turbo/SC intlet, nothing right?

seems to simple to be true... lol
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Originally Posted by allout06
so to clear it up a little..

So with an LS1 Valle cover..

Run -10an/-12an off each valve cover to a vented catch can for each cover correct? no PCV valve? no breathers on the valve covers?

valve cvr catch can

{::::::}--------------[]


{::::::}--------------[]

no vent line to the turbo/SC intlet, nothing right?

seems to simple to be true... lol

people have been overcomplicating things for a long time man. The proof is in the pudding.
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Originally Posted by allout06
so to clear it up a little..

So with an LS1 Valle cover..

Run -10an/-12an off each valve cover to a vented catch can for each cover correct? no PCV valve? no breathers on the valve covers?

valve cvr catch can

{::::::}--------------[]


{::::::}--------------[]

no vent line to the turbo/SC intlet, nothing right?

seems to simple to be true... lol
Yes....it has to work. So simple. Crankcase pressures build....as long as there's a way out that's the way they're gonna go. Might as well run hard lines back to a catch can with a breather. NO BREATHERS anywhere else, everything capped. Zero oil entering the intake and top end.....the way it's supposed to be. AIR only.

I'm doing this same setup as post 4 and 5 on the first page.......plus i might do a small electric vacuum pump that always runs and pulls vacuum very mildly full-time, mostly for when the engine is idling or when I'm cruising steady for a long time. I think I'll connect that to the valley cover port. If I see any oil at all in the vacuum pump or in the outlet hose, I'll ditch that and just keep the catch can......When I hit it hard, any back pressure will push its way out to the catch can but at low or steady rpms the vacuum will pull crankcase gases.

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Why do you have to use 2 catch cans? 1 won't suffice?
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Originally Posted by djfury05
Why do you have to use 2 catch cans? 1 won't suffice?
It is just one can. Go back to the first page....post 4 and 5. He runs a metal line off each valve cover...back to one catch can.

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Originally Posted by LS6427
It is just one can. Go back to the first page....post 4 and 5. He runs a metal line off each valve cover...back to one catch can.

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Ok.. post #30 just confused me for a second.
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Originally Posted by djfury05
Why do you have to use 2 catch cans? 1 won't suffice?
You do not need two. Although two may make installation easier, and pipe routing shorter and neater. Every car and owners preference may be different.
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Any thoughts on running a single -12 off the valley cover?
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Originally Posted by KsMySS
Any thoughts on running a single -12 off the valley cover?
Some have said that is more than enough. I believe it will be but cannot attest to it personally. You may be the guinea pig on that one bud.

The real question now is, where I should weld the #10 fittings on the valve covers that will allow the coil packs to sit without compromise. I dont have them in front of me right now, and wont any time soon.
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just reloacate the coils. or come off the side of the cover.

anyone used these? Seems like theyd be pretty easy to come right off the side with a -10 bung.

http://performanceparts.com/part/Mr-...FUKoPAod2XYAJQ
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When I get my heads here at the shop and get our fab guy to weld on the bungs I'll show you guys simple and easy what needs to be done, but that said there have already been posts and pictures that illustrate that in here.

Might even get David(MM) to make me a custom breather that is larger than the ones he currently makes. I'm mainly doing mine for safety in case the crank case becomes pressurized it will end up in the puke tank and not all over my tires at 130mph in the 1/8th. I'll be putting mine somewhere away from the tires that is for sure.


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