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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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your feed needs to go into the side of the reg, and return out the bottom.
thats how i have it set up
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Your problem is the pumps. They are only rated to 60 psi.

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by a4ls2goat
thats how i have it set up
Are you sure? Are you using the stock metal like as the feed and the braided 6AN as the return??

From the picture you have of the regulator the metal line goes to the bottum of the regulator
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:01 PM
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im using the evap line as a return
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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So have you done the test as requested ?

The plumbing you have should work although it is not ideal, and the pumps are easily capable of more than 60psi.

You say the feed is -6....that really looks like a tiny -6 though.

If you are incapable of carrying out the simple test described, try clamping up the return line gently and see if pressure rises.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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yea i was wondering if the 392 had a bypass..
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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The in tank pumps have a pressure bypass too. They start dumping fuel over about 60psi. That's why their flow goes to **** after 60-70psi.

But it doesnt stop them actually making more than 60psi.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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So have you done the test as requested ?

The plumbing you have should work although it is not ideal, and the pumps are easily capable of more than 60psi.

You say the feed is -6....that really looks like a tiny -6 though.

If you are incapable of carrying out the simple test described, try clamping up the return line gently and see if pressure rises.
i had the same issue with the summit regulator 1:1 also, i replaced it with this regulator thinking it was gonna fix the problem.

with the car idling i disconnect the vacuum line from the regulator and it doesnt change. fuel pressure stays the same.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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clearly it is an installation problem then.

Do the test as described, and/or fit a mechanical gauge that can be trusted.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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pressure to the FPR




i changed the vacuum port to the front of the intake manifold after the throttle body and my base pressure with the line disconnected went from 50psi to 45psi.

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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OK....seeing as that gauge is going from 100 to 50psi...would you care to elaborate as to the exact problem ?

And why it is going to 100psi ???

Because the problem you have been describing about sitting at a constant 60psi, certainly is not reflected in that video. Something is very fucked up.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
OK....seeing as that gauge is going from 100 to 50psi...would you care to elaborate as to the exact problem ?

And why it is going to 100psi ???

Because the problem you have been describing about sitting at a constant 60psi, certainly is not reflected in that video. Something is very fucked up.
i put pressure on the regulator to make sure it works.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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Jesus...how much pressure did you pump into it ? Did you hook it straight up to a compressor or something ? I meant a few psi lol

If base pressure with vac disconnected is 50psi, with vac connected and the engine idling, it should drop to around 42/43psi.

That seems to be the opposite of what you said though ?

Either way, as fuel pressure rises with boost, the actual installation, pumps, reg etc are all proven to do what they are supposed to do.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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I still say his regulator isnt the right type for what he is trying to do....
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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here is some vids i got.not the best but better than nothing

fuel pressure was set to 50psi with the line disconnected. went to around 42psi connected.




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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JAX04
I still say his regulator isnt the right type for what he is trying to do....
how? which one are you thinking would work?
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Im not parts genius, or claim to understand things ive not taken apart, but the the regulator that Skinnies uses, the setup you are trying to emulate is a straight through design, inlet -> Outlet with the return between them. Your regultor, both the side ports are inlet with the return where you have it.

I cannot help but think its not designed to work the same way as the other that is supposed to be straight through design. Just seems like if it could work that way, the literature would say so.

The magnafuel document says that your regulator has 2 inlets, meaning that fuel is supposed to come into the regulator from both ports, or block one off, (placing the regulator in series at the end of the rail.

are they the same inside? I dont know, will yours work the same way as the one that is designed to be straight through? I dont know, but i cannot help but think, NO.

Thats why i posted those document links for you. SO you could see they are two different things, and then directed you to a post that uses a regulator like yours, like everyone else runs, at the end of the system or splits the two rails into it.

again, Disclosure, i dont know, but just makes sense in my head that they are different.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JAX04
Im not parts genius, or claim to understand things ive not taken apart, but the the regulator that Skinnies uses, the setup you are trying to emulate is a straight through design, inlet -> Outlet with the return between them. Your regultor, both the side ports are inlet with the return where you have it.

I cannot help but think its not designed to work the same way as the other that is supposed to be straight through design. Just seems like if it could work that way, the literature would say so.

The magnafuel document says that your regulator has 2 inlets, meaning that fuel is supposed to come into the regulator from both ports, or block one off, (placing the regulator in series at the end of the rail.

are they the same inside? I dont know, will yours work the same way as the one that is designed to be straight through? I dont know, but i cannot help but think, NO.

Thats why i posted those document links for you. SO you could see they are two different things, and then directed you to a post that uses a regulator like yours, like everyone else runs, at the end of the system or splits the two rails into it.

again, Disclosure, i dont know, but just makes sense in my head that they are different.
ok. now i understand what you are talking about.

actually makes perfect sense now when i think about it.

i wonder if i could do it with the stock rails.?

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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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so, i changed my regulator from where it was at .

i ran my feed line to the rail, than from the -4 on the stock rail i ran it to the regulator, capped the other inlet and ran the return back to the tank.

still no change.
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