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Old 05-23-2013, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
I know you have a tuner doing your tuning for you, but I'd love to see what the timing map looks like. You could probably cut a 1.4-1.5 60' with the same 5psi launch if it had more timing in it down low, while still keeping 16* in at @14psi up top.

OR you could just throw the kitchen sink at it off the line and put it on the bumper.

Honestly, if the timing is as low as it probably is at the RPM you launch off the brake....you could probably launch with all 14psi you're running now.
It takes a while on the tbrake to build boost, I don't think the tranny would like me sitting there for a minute try to get it up to 14 psi lol. I need to get with my tuner about the timing and my rev limiter. It starts to nose over at 6400 through the exhaust, but open dp it's still pulling f*cking hard. Right now the rev limiter is at 6800, it needs to be 7200 or so.
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Originally Posted by RedRocketZ28
Nice times for the first time out. I saw your updates on FB. Can't wait to get mine down the track.
Yeah, I had alot of driver error going on. I left in 2nd gear 3 times in a row and still went 12s at lower 140s
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Originally Posted by L92 fox
It takes a while on the tbrake to build boost, I don't think the tranny would like me sitting there for a minute try to get it up to 14 psi lol. I need to get with my tuner about the timing and my rev limiter. It starts to nose over at 6400 through the exhaust, but open dp it's still pulling f*cking hard. Right now the rev limiter is at 6800, it needs to be 7200 or so.
Think about it like this....you've got a N/A engine that pulls hard to 7500rpm, but then you stick a potato in each collector. After doing that, it will obviously no longer pull to 7500rpm because you've placed a restriction in the exhaust.

The same thing can be said for a turbine wheel that is too small, a down pipe that is too small, exhaust that is too small OR too long etc. etc. etc.

Removing that restriction is going to allow you to make more power and run the engine up higher into the rpm range while still making power every single time.
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MY car through my flowmaster muffler and 3 inch exhaust can only make 10psi. Through my 4 inch cutout makes 20psi.
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what was teh 1/8 mile mph on that 144 pass. i run the same pt88 on 19psi and 15degrees on meth and went 9.25 at 153.3 with a 1.56. crank it up and let it eat that car should be a fun ride. i have been 116 in the 1/8 on 15psi/15 degrees on straight pump.
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111-113 1/8 mph
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sounds like a good first outing for you Cory! 8's will be yours in no time!
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Here is my 10.21 pass.
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Car looks real good! Now its time to work on the 60ft.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Very nice mph that's for sure. I remember a HUGE debate a few weeks/month ago where I was told it was worth nothing to run an open DP on a street car and that it was "unnecessary" because Mighty Mouse didn't pick up anything when he dropped his. Well I guess gaining 11mph is just blah and "unnecessary".

When I tell people things, it's not just to make their life harder or argue it's because it's the damn truth.

Very nice shake down runs that is for sure.
Thats because it is necked from 3.5 dp to 3 in catback. Of course its gonna chock like a ****.....

If it was 3.5 all the way back with straight flow through mufflers it wouldnt have amounted to much of any gain.

What kind of muffler is on the 3 inch catback on this car?
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Originally Posted by 95bowtie
Thats because it is necked from 3.5 dp to 3 in catback. Of course its gonna chock like a ****.....

If it was 3.5 all the way back with straight flow through mufflers it wouldnt have amounted to much of any gain.

What kind of muffler is on the 3 inch catback on this car?
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So basically a straight through resonator?

If it was a full 3.5 or dual 3 inch or even a single 4 inch system all the way back it wouldn't hurt much at all like that single 3 inch system. Usually easier to just run a cutout on the dp and leave your current setup alone.

I personally like to run a full quite exhaust that flows enough with the car on kill mode and not have to uncork anything or lose power because the full exhaust.
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Originally Posted by 95bowtie
Thats because it is necked from 3.5 dp to 3 in catback. Of course its gonna chock like a ****.....

If it was 3.5 all the way back with straight flow through mufflers it wouldnt have amounted to much of any gain.

What kind of muffler is on the 3 inch catback on this car?
You keep thinking that. Mighty Mouse ran a full cat-back on his car, and the argument was when he dropped his cat-back and went to 3.5" dp it gained nothing. Same apples to apples comparison as this case. MM's problem was backpressure before the turbine not after it.

I take it you've tested this yourself?

Have you ever seen a 2otl muffler? It is far from a straight through resonator, it's a chambered "box shaped" muffler.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
You keep thinking that. Mighty Mouse ran a full cat-back on his car, and the argument was when he dropped his cat-back and went to 3.5" dp it gained nothing. Same apples to apples comparison as this case. MM's problem was backpressure before the turbine not after it.

I take it you've tested this yourself?

Have you ever seen a 2otl muffler? It is far from a straight through resonator, it's a chambered "box shaped" muffler.

Dude not worth it. He enjoys swinging from nuts since no personal experience
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Dude not worth it. He enjoys swinging from nuts since no personal experience
It is becoming very clear to me that the majority of the posts in this section are that way.
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Here is a video of my 10.58 pass with a 1.96 60ft leaving on maybe 1 psi
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Originally Posted by 95bowtie
So basically a straight through resonator?

If it was a full 3.5 or dual 3 inch or even a single 4 inch system all the way back it wouldn't hurt much at all like that single 3 inch system. Usually easier to just run a cutout on the dp and leave your current setup alone.

I personally like to run a full quite exhaust that flows enough with the car on kill mode and not have to uncork anything or lose power because the full exhaust.
I had a Buick T-Type with a 3 inch down pipe into two 2 1/2 pipes with ATR pitbull mufflers. I also had a cutout in the 3 inch downpipe. ATR is now out of business but anybody who has seen a pitbull muffler it is straight thru and the difference between going thru them and a cutout was a 3 psi gain going from the wastegate set at 14 psi and gaining to 17 psi. It also gained 6 mph with the cutout open.

Straight thru and short as posible is the most ideal but sometimes that can't happen due to some things like aesthetics or just personal preference.
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Originally Posted by L92 fox
Here is a video of my 10.58 pass with a 1.96 60ft leaving on maybe 1 psi
http://youtu.be/kEDe9d8YPjg
When that thing comes on line, it comes on like a beast! I'm super excited to see how those LSA heads do when you really start cranking on this thing.

Just watching how soft the car is now, if you could get it to leave on 12-14psi and ramp it up to 20-22psi as quick as possible, it will go 8's no doubt.
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Once you can get that thng to build boost at the line it's going to me one hell of a ride! Good work!
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
When that thing comes on line, it comes on like a beast! I'm super excited to see how those LSA heads do when you really start cranking on this thing.

Just watching how soft the car is now, if you could get it to leave on 12-14psi and ramp it up to 20-22psi as quick as possible, it will go 8's no doubt.
I waiting on the same thing with those LSA heads Martin. I think he will be fine though. Those heads are casted a little different from their LS3/L92 cousins.


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