Big power six speed guys??
Why does every 6speed thread in this section immediately turn into an auto vs standard pissing match? It's the same song and dance every guys so can we just move on.
Another good point to note is how much the cars weigh. I won't be making big power but hope to get my m6 to live in my 2800lb car.
Another good point to note is how much the cars weigh. I won't be making big power but hope to get my m6 to live in my 2800lb car.
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From: Norn Iron
Why does every 6speed thread in this section immediately turn into an auto vs standard pissing match? It's the same song and dance every guys so can we just move on.
Another good point to note is how much the cars weigh. I won't be making big power but hope to get my m6 to live in my 2800lb car.
Another good point to note is how much the cars weigh. I won't be making big power but hope to get my m6 to live in my 2800lb car.
Because they're stuck in a mentality where their cars only go in a straight line for a few seconds, and nowhere else. hell, they'd even own automatic motorbikes if they could.
A completely stock good condition T56 would have no trouble at all holding 700hp, even more so at 2800lbs.
I did have a totally stock T56 in mine, ran multiple very low 10's before I removed it. I upgraded to a rebuilt T56 with 31 spline Viper mainshaft, cryo'd gears and whatever other **** they do inside. But all gears are stock.
Ive ran 9's and trapped close to 150mph at approx 3650lbs and it has received a fair bit of abuse. Again, the box is still in great order.
Only one complaint is 3-2 shift isnt great anymore, but that isnt power related. For some reason the baulk/blocker ring musnt be working too good anymore. It may have been down to the oil I used for a while, or maybe some other reason.
Either way, the box itself is more than strong enough.
Why does every 6speed thread in this section immediately turn into an auto vs standard pissing match? It's the same song and dance every guys so can we just move on.
Another good point to note is how much the cars weigh. I won't be making big power but hope to get my m6 to live in my 2800lb car.
Another good point to note is how much the cars weigh. I won't be making big power but hope to get my m6 to live in my 2800lb car.
M6 vs A4. Never ending story. Because they're stuck in a mentality where their cars only go in a straight line for a few seconds, and nowhere else. hell, they'd even own automatic motorbikes if they could.
A completely stock good condition T56 would have no trouble at all holding 700hp, even more so at 2800lbs.
I did have a totally stock T56 in mine, ran multiple very low 10's before I removed it. I upgraded to a rebuilt T56 with 31 spline Viper mainshaft, cryo'd gears and whatever other **** they do inside. But all gears are stock.
Ive ran 9's and trapped close to 150mph at approx 3650lbs and it has received a fair bit of abuse. Again, the box is still in great order.
Only one complaint is 3-2 shift isnt great anymore, but that isnt power related. For some reason the baulk/blocker ring musnt be working too good anymore. It may have been down to the oil I used for a while, or maybe some other reason.
Either way, the box itself is more than strong enough.
A completely stock good condition T56 would have no trouble at all holding 700hp, even more so at 2800lbs.
I did have a totally stock T56 in mine, ran multiple very low 10's before I removed it. I upgraded to a rebuilt T56 with 31 spline Viper mainshaft, cryo'd gears and whatever other **** they do inside. But all gears are stock.
Ive ran 9's and trapped close to 150mph at approx 3650lbs and it has received a fair bit of abuse. Again, the box is still in great order.
Only one complaint is 3-2 shift isnt great anymore, but that isnt power related. For some reason the baulk/blocker ring musnt be working too good anymore. It may have been down to the oil I used for a while, or maybe some other reason.
Either way, the box itself is more than strong enough.
ya i think that what im going to do is fix it and upgrade what i can and maybe down the line get a tr6060 and idk why it has to be about all auto guys dont some ppl like to drive the car and go threw gears and is that so bad to keep doing it when u have power i think not auto guys hahaha thanks everyone for the comments
ya i think that what im going to do is fix it and upgrade what i can and maybe down the line get a tr6060 and idk why it has to be about all auto guys dont some ppl like to drive the car and go threw gears and is that so bad to keep doing it when u have power i think not auto guys hahaha thanks everyone for the comments
Well the shop that did my sixspeed is no longer in busniess. But I will say this, I had a , billet viper input, output shaft micronite gears, steel shift forks, temkin bearings. I was at 830 hp in my z28 with a Ram clucth back in the day when they where good. I can count on one hand how many times I took it down the 1/4 mile no slicks. But what I cant count is how many high way runs I did. That being said the two things I did special was solid motor mounts, and stiff trannymount. That transmission was built in 05 i took it out in 09 and sold it. Its in a procharged fox body now and the owner said it busted 4 months ago after a miss shift. I driven a 80e manual valve body ta it was bad *** . Ill say this, if you track a built T56 on the regular then it wont last to long. Its the shock that kills them not HP. Joey at tick allways said you need a dam good cluch to help it live. If the op has the coin and wants to stay sixspeed contact Tick or rpm.
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From: Houston
[QUOTE=turbocamaro125;17483939] I am on the fence now with my build .. I am doing a 408/F1R in a 02 WS6 .Will be around 20lbs to make goal of 1100 whp.. Im considering losing my M6 for TH400 or 80.. I just dont think im ever going to hook even with getting rid of the 18s for 15s and a tall tire/ losing the 3.73s for a 3.23 gear.. I just dont know ..
Because auto= Racecar…. Smartest thing I have heard today!
Not to high jack but guys that say auto trans equals racecar...have never rode in on driven a 850+ 4l80 car. Ive converted more M6 guys then I can count...lol
(M6 guy) Hey man Ill never give up my 3rd pedal...autos are gay,autos shift like a slush boxes, autos in stock cars lose to M6 cars all day long....Me ok then lets just take a short ride in my auto car that's gay.....M6 guy 30seconds later **** me this thing is fast and shifts faster then I could ever shift my M6....It never loses boost just keeps pulling....and the brake boostin is ammmaazzzing. It has a trans brake tooo....wonder how much I could sell my M6 setup for?????
Just sayin...
but yes a viper spec t56 for something in the 700whp range to make it last awhile
Not to high jack but guys that say auto trans equals racecar...have never rode in on driven a 850+ 4l80 car. Ive converted more M6 guys then I can count...lol
(M6 guy) Hey man Ill never give up my 3rd pedal...autos are gay,autos shift like a slush boxes, autos in stock cars lose to M6 cars all day long....Me ok then lets just take a short ride in my auto car that's gay.....M6 guy 30seconds later **** me this thing is fast and shifts faster then I could ever shift my M6....It never loses boost just keeps pulling....and the brake boostin is ammmaazzzing. It has a trans brake tooo....wonder how much I could sell my M6 setup for?????
Just sayin...
but yes a viper spec t56 for something in the 700whp range to make it last awhile
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A Tick Adjustable Master is a must for t56 car. Went through so many trans tear downs back in the day because of poor hydraulics and in the heat of the street race where you cramm it into gear regardless of how hard its trying to resist lol.
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[QUOTE=Craig Gibbs;17489270]
I am on the fence now with my build .. I am doing a 408/F1R in a 02 WS6 .Will be around 20lbs to make goal of 1100 whp.. Im considering losing my M6 for TH400 or 80.. I just dont think im ever going to hook even with getting rid of the 18s for 15s and a tall tire/ losing the 3.73s for a 3.23 gear.. I just dont know .. Guys are hooking with a lot more power than that, just spend money and get the suspension right. An auto is easier to hook than a stick.
I am on the fence now with my build .. I am doing a 408/F1R in a 02 WS6 .Will be around 20lbs to make goal of 1100 whp.. Im considering losing my M6 for TH400 or 80.. I just dont think im ever going to hook even with getting rid of the 18s for 15s and a tall tire/ losing the 3.73s for a 3.23 gear.. I just dont know ..
No i havent. Graduated, moved, started work (over the past month) and left the car back home for now. I highly doubt the clutch i have in it will hold a good launch but im gonna try. Hoping to make a track outing next month.
Ive ran multiple cars that have gone 10.3-10.4 at 133ish and won, so its gonna be close. Im gonna try and figure out a way to drop some weight in the mean time too.
had yours out this year?
Ive ran multiple cars that have gone 10.3-10.4 at 133ish and won, so its gonna be close. Im gonna try and figure out a way to drop some weight in the mean time too.
had yours out this year?
Last edited by Ryans99ls1; Jun 21, 2013 at 09:56 AM.
My reason for swapping wasnt really to go faster, but less matainence. Changing clutches every couple years and hydraulics gets old. Then the cost of 2 blown up t-56s. 1st time was 3rd gear the 2nd time was 1st gear and synchros. Adds up quick. My fully built th350 with transbreak and manual VB used was 600$ and the 4200 stall from FTI was around 850 or so. If the th350 needs a refresh its 1/2 the cost of a t-56 refresh. Just my.02