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Old 02-06-2014, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BTLBABY
Has to be 4" piping. Man that sucker is intimidating looking to say the least! I've heard through out the years, that these vertical style coolers are more efficient than the horizontal designs. Anyone else heard this rumor?
Absolutely true! When I called Bell I was wanting to get a 6 inch thick horizontal style. He asked about my set up and told me I was going at it all wrong. He did his math and emailed me the design for the intercooler I have now. Gerhard said this is the intercooler you need. Gerhard Shcruf has been working with forced induction for over 40 years, he and Corky Bell started Bell intercoolers together, Gerhard worked with Ferrari on their race team for a few seasons helping with their FI cars, and also designed the Comprex supercharger. Once I read all that how could I not take his advice on what intercooler I needed.
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Originally Posted by WstSidHomE
could you fit it upside down so the outlet faces down and your piping go under the core support and up to TB?
Yes that would work no problem. You can also flip it so the inlet on the bottom is on the left or the right
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The benefit to the vertical IC is the lower pressure drop. The majority of temperature drop is in the first ~4" of the core. If that first 4" is 12 inch wide, a 24" wide core will have half the velocity meaning less pressure drop and more time to cool. They are a little harder to package due to the added height of the end tanks but there is huge benefit.
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Originally Posted by Exidous
The benefit to the vertical IC is the lower pressure drop. The majority of temperature drop is in the first ~4" of the core. If that first 4" is 12 inch wide, a 24" wide core will have half the velocity meaning less pressure drop and more time to cool. They are a little harder to package due to the added height of the end tanks but there is huge benefit.
All true!!!! The verticle style has double the tubes that the air travels in than a horizontal style. This means you can get away with a smaller vertical core and get equal or better cooling

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Old 02-06-2014, 07:20 AM
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This explains it some



top outlet FMIC, who's runnin one like this?-image-711727261.jpg
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Id like to get one like you have THADD, but the Treadstone fits the budget. It has 3" inlet/out. Going to a 102mm tb, is that too small on a 1,XXXhp setup? Can the 3" ends be cut off and 4" welded back or no?
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I'm pretty sure that 3" will suit you just fine. You start adding a lot of volume to fill jumping from 3" to 4".
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Originally Posted by a98ws6
Id like to get one like you have THADD, but the Treadstone fits the budget. It has 3" inlet/out. Going to a 102mm tb, is that too small on a 1,XXXhp setup? Can the 3" ends be cut off and 4" welded back or no?
I think it would be way to much work going from 3 to 4 inches. Plus you would have to open the holes in the end caps and then I would worry about all the aluminum shavings getting in the core. If a treadstone 3 in opening is all your budget allows then go that route
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I run the 968 hp version. No issues but I think I'm maxed out.
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I just ordered this same treadstone intercooler. I was trying decide between this ($435) shipped and the chiseled performance a2a which is $975 plus shipping. Hopefully this works out. Plus i really wanted a top outlet intercooler.
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Originally Posted by DopeFedZ
I just ordered this same treadstone intercooler. I was trying decide between this ($435) shipped and the chiseled performance a2a which is $975 plus shipping. Hopefully this works out. Plus i really wanted a top outlet intercooler.
Where did you find for $435 shipped?
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Originally Posted by THADD
I think it would be way to much work going from 3 to 4 inches. Plus you would have to open the holes in the end caps and then I would worry about all the aluminum shavings getting in the core. If a treadstone 3 in opening is all your budget allows then go that route

Would running 4" pipe from the 102mm tb and necking down to the 3" openings be to any benefit?
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Originally Posted by a98ws6
Would running 4" pipe from the 102mm tb and necking down to the 3" openings be to any benefit?
i wouldnt think so
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Different chassis.. but I run in bottom out top with a Treadstone core


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Any update on this intercooler? Im looking to cange to a vertical flow IC.
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Im using the dual inlet version, in a 2nd gen F-body. Works great.




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