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Old 09-21-2013, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Keep up the great work. Can't wait to see the end product.
Thanks

Its gonna make some power for sure.
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Love the car, great work!
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Should have some rough pics of the y pipe fabbing by the morning. Also a tech from Fluidyne is coming out to measure for a custom radiator this evening.
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Well got a good start last night on the y pipe.









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Twin Scroll is the way to go! Thing will spool faster than your 75mm
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Originally Posted by Camaro9969
Twin Scroll is the way to go! Thing will spool faster than your 75mm
He may have to spray to spool this sucker. 130mm turbine lol.
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Originally Posted by mrstepheneades
He may have to spray to spool this sucker. 130mm turbine lol.
Not with the cam I just spec'd for him he wont.
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Trust in Martin's words^ loo
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Not with the cam I just spec'd for him he wont.
I didn't even know he called you Martin. He's doing and handling all engine stuff. We're just getting the turbo kit components fabricated then he'll have to take it all back apart when he get the other motor done. We discussed last night that he may ride for a while on the stock ls1 the make sure there are no bugs with heating and cooling and leaks and so on. Before he switches engines and really pours it to it.

Here's what we got done last night. Y pipe is fabbed but still gotta add the wastegate flange depending on where it has to go. He's running out of run fast under there lol.





Welding the manifold flanges and the seams up but like I said we are waiting on welding the turbo flange until we decide where the wastegate is going.
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I believe he had contacted another cam grinder, and I personally felt the cam was much too large for his set-up.

We're trying to currently figure out how large we can enlarge the valve spring pockets to fit the proper diameter valve spring for a mechanical roller.

Old cam was 262/264 degrees duration@.050" IIRC and the cam I specified for him is 251/259.

Keep in mind, that a solid roller camshaft will act nearly 10-15 degrees larger @.050" than a comparable hydraulic grind. So in all reality this is really more like a 237/245 camshaft.

Which for a nasty 408 with a big large frame turbo is rather mild.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
I believe he had contacted another cam grinder, and I personally felt the cam was much too large for his set-up.

We're trying to currently figure out how large we can enlarge the valve spring pockets to fit the proper diameter valve spring for a mechanical roller.

Old cam was 262/264 degrees duration@.050" IIRC and the cam I specified for him is 251/259.

Keep in mind, that a solid roller camshaft will act nearly 10-15 degrees larger @.050" than a comparable hydraulic grind. So in all reality this is really more like a 237/245 camshaft.

Which for a nasty 408 with a big large frame turbo is rather mild.
Ok well we are about finished with his y pipe. Will be finished completely tonight with wastegate mounted and all. We will assemble what is there so the radiator can be fitted. I cant wait till Saturday so I can blow mine up lol jk I hope not. 18psi now.
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Hopefully you went with 2.25" pipe on that crossover... that would definitely reduce spool time.
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Originally Posted by slowlsx
Hopefully you went with 2.25" pipe on that crossover... that would definitely reduce spool time.
2.5". He wants to make big power in the future. He was talking big numbers at one time but money will slow the numbers down lol.

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Last nights progress. Now ready to make radiator supports.









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Interested to see how close the spring weight will be on the gate with it being 180deg off the path of the exhaust
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Originally Posted by 9sectruck
Interested to see how close the spring weight will be on the gate with it being 180deg off the path of the exhaust
He will have boost controller and probably won't go below 10psi. Or at least I wouldn't if it was mine. Always on Kill!!!
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Looking good!
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Here are some better pictures I took after I pushed the car outside yesterday.









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Originally Posted by mrstepheneades
He will have boost controller and probably won't go below 10psi. Or at least I wouldn't if it was mine. Always on Kill!!!
I will be shocked if that works right. The angle is not right man. even with the lightest spring you might not get any control out of it.
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Originally Posted by Camaro9969
I will be shocked if that works right. The angle is not right man. even with the lightest spring you might not get any control out of it.
Yeah the only true way for control is twin gates at the bends like you have it but this is a ebay 44mm gate and not sure if it is gonna be large enough anyway. I have a 50mm JGS on mine and its not enough to control mine and that's why I can get 10+psi from a little hallman manual controller that's only suppose to add 5psi. He says he will be on 20psi of boost and with that huge turbo and monster 130mm turbine not sure if he will even need the gate anyway. We will see. Just working with the parts he provides. If it doesn't work to suit him we will change it. Wont be to much trouble. Trying to cram a lot of stuff in a tight spot and still have it the ay he wants it.


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