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Old 09-30-2013, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mrstepheneades
Methanol keeps it cool enough to do without coolant for the passes? Not a racer so not sure.


Correct, we just keep an eye on oil temp to make sure the engine isn't getting too hot. We try to keep oil temp @ 200 degrees or less. Sometimes we aren't able to get that much heat in it.
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Originally Posted by Sbryson02
Correct, we just keep an eye on oil temp to make sure the engine isn't getting too hot. We try to keep oil temp @ 200 degrees or less. Sometimes we aren't able to get that much heat in it.
would you care to tell us about your intake and FI set up. Im curious about the 2 injector set up and how that all works. Thanks
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Man there is a 4.99 in that thing lol
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That is awesome .i bet you hurt a few feelings at the race track. How big of a cam you guys running
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Originally Posted by X-Bomb Racing
would you care to tell us about your intake and FI set up. Im curious about the 2 injector set up and how that all works. Thanks
The intake is a Super Victor. We had the carburetor pad milled off and that aluminum ring welded on. This was all done in an effort to make airflow more uniform between the runners given that the LS carb design would suffer a similar fate as SBF with shorter runners in the center and longer on the corners.

The welding and elbow were built by Tim Lyons of Lyons Custom Motorsports.

As for the dual injectors, as a general rule of thumb, that has to do with the fuel we're using and what we had available to us. Methanol doesn't have the same energy content as gasoline, so the rule of thumb is that it takes twice the amount of methanol to make the same power as gasoline. We had to sets of injectors available to us when we started, and we hoped that we'd be making some decent power, so we opted to use both sets (not to mention that a single BIG set of injectors is nearly twice what we paid for what we already had). So, in the Holley we have the primary set that runs all the time. Then, we have an activation threshold that can be set to enable the second set of injectors. The threshold is a percentage of the duty cycle of the primary injectors.

This allows us to use a bit smaller injector for the primary set of injectors to get the engine to idle cleanly and a much larger second set to help take up the slack when it's making steam.

Depending on what we decide to do this winter, we may change that up some. But all in all, it's worked very, very well for us.
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Originally Posted by slowbu
Man there is a 4.99 in that thing lol
It'll need a JATO rocket strapped to it for that to happen any time soon!
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Originally Posted by Cjk417
That is awesome .i bet you hurt a few feelings at the race track. How big of a cam you guys running
The cam isn't big at all. It's something like 226/232. It was actually ordered by a friend of ours for doing nitrous on a 5.3. We just happened to have it available to us, so we used it. Thankfully it's worked well for us.
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Originally Posted by slowbu
Man there is a 4.99 in that thing lol

Man, I wish. We've maxed out the PT88, if we find a turbo that'll make 1500hp or so, we would sure throw it at it. That tenth of a second is a tall order though. lol
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Originally Posted by LinearX
The intake is a Super Victor. We had the carburetor pad milled off and that aluminum ring welded on. This was all done in an effort to make airflow more uniform between the runners given that the LS carb design would suffer a similar fate as SBF with shorter runners in the center and longer on the corners.

The welding and elbow were built by Tim Lyons of Lyons Custom Motorsports.

As for the dual injectors, as a general rule of thumb, that has to do with the fuel we're using and what we had available to us. Methanol doesn't have the same energy content as gasoline, so the rule of thumb is that it takes twice the amount of methanol to make the same power as gasoline. We had to sets of injectors available to us when we started, and we hoped that we'd be making some decent power, so we opted to use both sets (not to mention that a single BIG set of injectors is nearly twice what we paid for what we already had). So, in the Holley we have the primary set that runs all the time. Then, we have an activation threshold that can be set to enable the second set of injectors. The threshold is a percentage of the duty cycle of the primary injectors.

This allows us to use a bit smaller injector for the primary set of injectors to get the engine to idle cleanly and a much larger second set to help take up the slack when it's making steam.

Depending on what we decide to do this winter, we may change that up some. But all in all, it's worked very, very well for us.
Got any pics of the custom super victor showing injectors and stuff.? Sounds like a bad *** setup.
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Originally Posted by mrstepheneades
Got any pics of the custom super victor showing injectors and stuff.? Sounds like a bad *** setup.
This is posted on the bullet
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...1&postcount=20
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Hard running car
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Originally Posted by X-Bomb Racing

Lots of photos here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1020230...eat=directlink
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Originally Posted by LinearX
How you cut that intake is some wild ****!
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M...307_185030.jpg
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Did you machine the rods while installing the ARP bolts?
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Originally Posted by Sbryson02
Yes, it's an 05+ L33. We put stock replacement rings in it and new bearings. Fel pro MLS gaskets. ARP rod bolts and chinese head studs. Grouted the block also.
I have all the same parts except untouched junkyard rod bolts and rings. Went 5.76 with a little 75/83 turbo on 20psi thru a LS1 intake. These L33's are the ****! I have 2 of them and looking for another.
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Question:

What RPM do you have to leave on the 2step and how much boost at the line to get the 88mm to light off?
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Originally Posted by TTA1437
Did you machine the rods while installing the ARP bolts?
Nope. Torqued them down and let it eat.
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Originally Posted by S13LSx
Question:

What RPM do you have to leave on the 2step and how much boost at the line to get the 88mm to light off?
We've tried anything from 3800 to 4500. We've also tried 7psi to 13.5psi. It likes to be in the range of 4000 and 8-9psi for a good launch that doesn't want to drag the bumper or wheelie for 200ft.
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Well I have to say I'm sold on the Ebay head studs lol,

I guess other then burning threw a head gasket how can u tell if u lift a head with a dry block engine?
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Just looked thru all the pics in the link. Awesome job on this car man.


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