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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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I have been shaking down a new setup. I have a boost creep problem. I pulled the spring out of the gate and still make 5psi and climbing @6000rpm. I figured the gate would work where I put it but lack of back pressure is screwing that. I need some input on the best of my options. I attached some pics, #1 is the current config., #2 is the easiest solution (tilting the gate on a steeper angle and making a long blend into the cross over pipe), #3 is most likely the best location but puts the gate really close the the ground. Lets hear what you think.??

5.3 w/317's, tick turbo cam and head studs
pt76gts, truck mani's, 2" primaries into a 2.5" t4 merge
tial v44 gate
3.5" down pipe, 3 bullet mufflers run to the rear end and dumped
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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I would go with the number 2 position, having the wastegate pipe as close to a 45* angle as possible. The gate itself wouldn't need to be exactly where it's pictured. It's more important to have the pipe with the angle of flow and put the gate where it fits best. Think of exhaust as water and how it would flow best.
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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The boost controller should be taking care of your creep. also that looks small to be a 44mm WG. tial WG arent that great in my opinion anyway. If you want a good WG get a synapse.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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#3.

Air flows like water. Ever been to a water park? Ever been down a water slide? Which bend does the water follow?

The outside bend.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 11:06 AM
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How close is the crossover to the front of the engine? If you have room i'd pull it off both banks right before it merges.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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#3 position is best
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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i think you need a larger gate, along with the thing angled at a 45*
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
#3.

Air flows like water. Ever been to a water park? Ever been down a water slide? Which bend does the water follow?

The outside bend.
You are right... I didn't look close enough to pic #3. Thought he was showing it coming out of just one bank, and not the merge....Carry on.
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Originally Posted by lsx_production
The boost controller should be taking care of your creep. also that looks small to be a 44mm WG. tial WG arent that great in my opinion anyway. If you want a good WG get a synapse.
Lol..
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 12:35 AM
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Is the WG dumped to atmosphere or DP? The puzzle doesn't just end at where you weld the gate on; if exhaust still has to travel a distance after going through the gate, that'll add to post-gate backpressure and contribute to creep.
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install china 60mm gate in same spot for 120 dollars and sell used tial for 200 dollars
buy yourself some beer and pizza with profit lol
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Originally Posted by denmah
install china 60mm gate in same spot for 120 dollars and sell used tial for 200 dollars
buy yourself some beer and pizza with profit lol
you always have the best solutions LOL, wish you lived in michigan seem like a fun guy to wrench on stuff with.
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